new srt-4??
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new srt-4??
honestly, would you guys sport one? cause im getting ready to get rid of the civi and ive been looking into them. this guy around here has one and he waxes an sti on a regular basis. there are plenty of vids on it at srvidz.com my buddy runs the site. but honestly what do you guys think? if i got one i'd get rid of the wing and lower it within 2 days lol. and i was thinking black on black 18's with polished lip. just tell me ur opinions.
thanks a lot guys
James
p.s. he has the mopar stage one kit which consists of new ecu and bigger injectors, a bov, and an intake
thanks a lot guys
James
p.s. he has the mopar stage one kit which consists of new ecu and bigger injectors, a bov, and an intake
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Rep Power: 0 I'd hang onto the Vic and save up 5000 more...
I've never been impressed with Dodge/DalmerChrysler/Jeep reliability and build quality. As mentioned somewhere else by some other user, "The SRT-4 will make your Civic feel like a BMW". The locals here refer to any/all neons as "the disposable sports car" Yeah, it'll make a lot of power and go fast, but not for long unless you baby it. And well all know how many posters baby their cars (sic).
Heh, some sidestory; Back when I had my truck ('90 toyota 4wd) the rest of the group on the car forums would constantly be talking about the shoddyness of Jeep's. Sure, they may be "trail rated" but when you have ball-joints going out and suspension components that aren't torqued to spec from the factory (Grand Cherokee and many Wranglers). Also another issue just about any off-roader has with Jeep is the crap they make the suspension, axles and steering components out of; and the fact that the frames flat out suck, you can break your windshield going between two rocks and geting two wheels off the ground. I know cars are a COMPLETELY different subject, but if they can't build something that costs TWICE as much as the SRT, what makes you think they've done something different; Especially with something that costs half as much. It's just the principle behind it all I hope you can see. Gonna suck the day you hit 36,000 on the clock the headgasket goes while the two rear fenders fall off...
ooh, another idea, save yourself the hastle and turbo your vic. MUCH cheaper than buying a new car, and twice as reliable, probably even handles better... If you still need more power afer turboing, build up your internals from DHracing or swap in a K-series. Heh, you dump 20k in your Vic and not only will people not expect you to be fast, but you'll eat SRT's long past the time the one you're thinking of buying would have died. $0.02
I've never been impressed with Dodge/DalmerChrysler/Jeep reliability and build quality. As mentioned somewhere else by some other user, "The SRT-4 will make your Civic feel like a BMW". The locals here refer to any/all neons as "the disposable sports car" Yeah, it'll make a lot of power and go fast, but not for long unless you baby it. And well all know how many posters baby their cars (sic).
Heh, some sidestory; Back when I had my truck ('90 toyota 4wd) the rest of the group on the car forums would constantly be talking about the shoddyness of Jeep's. Sure, they may be "trail rated" but when you have ball-joints going out and suspension components that aren't torqued to spec from the factory (Grand Cherokee and many Wranglers). Also another issue just about any off-roader has with Jeep is the crap they make the suspension, axles and steering components out of; and the fact that the frames flat out suck, you can break your windshield going between two rocks and geting two wheels off the ground. I know cars are a COMPLETELY different subject, but if they can't build something that costs TWICE as much as the SRT, what makes you think they've done something different; Especially with something that costs half as much. It's just the principle behind it all I hope you can see. Gonna suck the day you hit 36,000 on the clock the headgasket goes while the two rear fenders fall off...
ooh, another idea, save yourself the hastle and turbo your vic. MUCH cheaper than buying a new car, and twice as reliable, probably even handles better... If you still need more power afer turboing, build up your internals from DHracing or swap in a K-series. Heh, you dump 20k in your Vic and not only will people not expect you to be fast, but you'll eat SRT's long past the time the one you're thinking of buying would have died. $0.02
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If you really wanted a fast sedan you should look into the WRX, on the other hand, if you're looking for a fast and fun car in general, go for a Miata. Or you can wait untill Lexus releases the new IS...
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Miata sucks as far as hauling people and stuff around, you could keep the vic for that and pick up a used miata and dump a few grand into it building it to "beast" status. You'd still be below the cost of the SRT and get to have all kinds of fun wrenching on your new ride.
Other than that, get a rex, you won't be sorry
Miata sucks as far as hauling people and stuff around, you could keep the vic for that and pick up a used miata and dump a few grand into it building it to "beast" status. You'd still be below the cost of the SRT and get to have all kinds of fun wrenching on your new ride.
Other than that, get a rex, you won't be sorry
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Rep Power: 377 For bang for the buck...it's a damn good deal. Just be careful and don't rag the damn thing out. And as for reliability goes...meh...that's what Warranties are for...
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Rep Power: 343 ok ok....i was walking through wal mart last night and stopped by the magazine section....i saw the new LANCER MR in the mag....Stock 12.9...and the new srt-4 will be 600 pounds lighter....its crazy..i would say Lancer MR 12.9 stock....
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The Lancer MR is gonna rock.
I wonder if it's gonna get badged as the Evo IX...
$5 says the mitsu will blow the doors of the neon when both have 50,000 hard-driven miles on the clock!
$10 says the RSX-S does the same to all above when the RSX has 150,000 on the clock
Now, back to more beer!
The Lancer MR is gonna rock.
I wonder if it's gonna get badged as the Evo IX...
$5 says the mitsu will blow the doors of the neon when both have 50,000 hard-driven miles on the clock!
$10 says the RSX-S does the same to all above when the RSX has 150,000 on the clock
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I'd hang onto the Vic and save up 5000 more...
I've never been impressed with Dodge/DalmerChrysler/Jeep reliability and build quality. As mentioned somewhere else by some other user, "The SRT-4 will make your Civic feel like a BMW". The locals here refer to any/all neons as "the disposable sports car" Yeah, it'll make a lot of power and go fast, but not for long unless you baby it. And well all know how many posters baby their cars (sic).
Heh, some sidestory; Back when I had my truck ('90 toyota 4wd) the rest of the group on the car forums would constantly be talking about the shoddyness of Jeep's. Sure, they may be "trail rated" but when you have ball-joints going out and suspension components that aren't torqued to spec from the factory (Grand Cherokee and many Wranglers). Also another issue just about any off-roader has with Jeep is the crap they make the suspension, axles and steering components out of; and the fact that the frames flat out suck, you can break your windshield going between two rocks and geting two wheels off the ground. I know cars are a COMPLETELY different subject, but if they can't build something that costs TWICE as much as the SRT, what makes you think they've done something different; Especially with something that costs half as much. It's just the principle behind it all I hope you can see. Gonna suck the day you hit 36,000 on the clock the headgasket goes while the two rear fenders fall off...
ooh, another idea, save yourself the hastle and turbo your vic. MUCH cheaper than buying a new car, and twice as reliable, probably even handles better... If you still need more power afer turboing, build up your internals from DHracing or swap in a K-series. Heh, you dump 20k in your Vic and not only will people not expect you to be fast, but you'll eat SRT's long past the time the one you're thinking of buying would have died. $0.02
I'd hang onto the Vic and save up 5000 more...
I've never been impressed with Dodge/DalmerChrysler/Jeep reliability and build quality. As mentioned somewhere else by some other user, "The SRT-4 will make your Civic feel like a BMW". The locals here refer to any/all neons as "the disposable sports car" Yeah, it'll make a lot of power and go fast, but not for long unless you baby it. And well all know how many posters baby their cars (sic).
Heh, some sidestory; Back when I had my truck ('90 toyota 4wd) the rest of the group on the car forums would constantly be talking about the shoddyness of Jeep's. Sure, they may be "trail rated" but when you have ball-joints going out and suspension components that aren't torqued to spec from the factory (Grand Cherokee and many Wranglers). Also another issue just about any off-roader has with Jeep is the crap they make the suspension, axles and steering components out of; and the fact that the frames flat out suck, you can break your windshield going between two rocks and geting two wheels off the ground. I know cars are a COMPLETELY different subject, but if they can't build something that costs TWICE as much as the SRT, what makes you think they've done something different; Especially with something that costs half as much. It's just the principle behind it all I hope you can see. Gonna suck the day you hit 36,000 on the clock the headgasket goes while the two rear fenders fall off...
ooh, another idea, save yourself the hastle and turbo your vic. MUCH cheaper than buying a new car, and twice as reliable, probably even handles better... If you still need more power afer turboing, build up your internals from DHracing or swap in a K-series. Heh, you dump 20k in your Vic and not only will people not expect you to be fast, but you'll eat SRT's long past the time the one you're thinking of buying would have died. $0.02
there is a saying you pay what you get for, the neon is like a damn rental car...all it has is a big engine.
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^knows what he is talking about....
there is a saying you pay what you get for, the neon is like a damn rental car...all it has is a big engine.
^knows what he is talking about....
there is a saying you pay what you get for, the neon is like a damn rental car...all it has is a big engine.
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Rep Power: 380 something about FWD Turbo that just doesn't seem right to me. Guess its the autocrosser in me, But having that much power on a FWD car would just make it a Pain in the *** to push around the corners well.
So, No. I have no plans of ever getting an SRT-4 (and I have yet to be beaten by one
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Horsepower is overrated.
So, No. I have no plans of ever getting an SRT-4 (and I have yet to be beaten by one
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Rep Power: 0 FYI SRT-4's list for $21000 and you will be extremely hard pressed to find one under that price. BRAND NEW 04 WRX's are sold everyday for a shade over $22,000. Search around and browse www.nasioc.com or www.clubwrx.net to find the cheapest deal near you.... That is a $1,000 difference for awd, a PROVEN platform and drivetrain, and overall a much nicer car....
Re: new srt-4??
Originally posted by jamesbbh
honestly, would you guys sport one? cause im getting ready to get rid of the civi and ive been looking into them. this guy around here has one and he waxes an sti on a regular basis. there are plenty of vids on it at srvidz.com my buddy runs the site. but honestly what do you guys think? if i got one i'd get rid of the wing and lower it within 2 days lol. and i was thinking black on black 18's with polished lip. just tell me ur opinions.
thanks a lot guys
James
p.s. he has the mopar stage one kit which consists of new ecu and bigger injectors, a bov, and an intake
honestly, would you guys sport one? cause im getting ready to get rid of the civi and ive been looking into them. this guy around here has one and he waxes an sti on a regular basis. there are plenty of vids on it at srvidz.com my buddy runs the site. but honestly what do you guys think? if i got one i'd get rid of the wing and lower it within 2 days lol. and i was thinking black on black 18's with polished lip. just tell me ur opinions.
thanks a lot guys
James
p.s. he has the mopar stage one kit which consists of new ecu and bigger injectors, a bov, and an intake
To the people saying that its not a reliable car... that is true but I'm sure this guy isnt buying the SRT4 for the reliability.
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Rep Power: 0 I personally wouldn't buy the srt-4. I don't know - it just seems like a risky car. I'm sure it'll be fine and reliable for the first 3 years but after that period vanishes and you go onto your 5 or year+ there is no telling what will happen. I have friends with older neons and they were giving it to the next family member in line for a car but it was just so unreliable they couldn't even use it anymore. I don't know about the srt-4 but since its essentially a neon I would assume it would have some reliability issues. It's also the first model year for the srt-4 so I guess there may be some bugs with the first release. I have not test driven or no anyone that has an srt-4 so I really can't account for anything I stated - these are just my opinions and my opinion of Dodge build quality in general. I personally wouldn't buy one.
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Rep Power: 0 Yeah, we all remember what Dodge/Chrystler went through with the 1st gen Intrepid in it's first model year.... My uncle went through 3 transmissions and 2 engines in the first 30,000 miles he owned the thing, he sold it Just another check on Dodge's ability to underperform :/
There a large difference between a fast car and a good car.
The SRT-4 is a fast car.
There a large difference between a fast car and a good car.
The SRT-4 is a fast car.
just to clarify somethin the srt4 doesn't have 250 it has 230, also ppl say get a wrx and a few mods you will own the srt4? um there are some evos gettin beat by srt4's that are stock or with under $1,000 worth of mods done to em, they are really fast, but i wouldn't wanna take one through some windy roads, also front wheel drive turbo just seems to me like you'll be goin thru tires like crazy cause of wheelspin, i could be wrong tho, but yeah someone else said you wont get an srt4 for under 21k which is true, they sell like hotcakes so its one of the few american cars that aren't bein sold for close to cost, so you can get a brand new wrx for say 22,5 or if you're lucky some dealers even have leftover 03's goin for like 20 or 21 brand new, also you're gonna have the car for a long time and you dont wanna be unhappy with it, so if you really want a wrx over the srt4 i say wait a few months, save up some more money, and get what will really make you happy, unless you have your heart set on the srt4
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Rep Power: 0 Chrysler has sold more turbo cars than any other car company. The srt-4 comes with a 7 year powertrain warranty- even honda doesn't have that. Chances are you won't own one for 7 years. Assumptions on a cars reliability are useless , unless there are actuall cars that have broken down, opinions are not facts. I own a 96 grand cherokee, i go offroading on weekends, get back on the road and blow the doors of most cars. I just hit 145,000 with the origional trans and suspension components. If you maintain your car it won't break and if it does thats what warranties are for.
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Rep Power: 0 Where do you get this sales tidbit on turbo cars? Renault, Volvo, Citrogen, Subaru and VW and Nissan have been offering turbos on various cars here and there since long before Chrysler knew what a turbo was. The first turbo Chrysler was an option to add to the 1981 2.2L I-4 that ended up in the K-cars. It was an enigma, in that it made quite a bit of power (up to 224 factory certed) while maintaining what most call "decent reliability". Decent reliability in the early 80's ment your car was pretty tired feeling by 50k and American cars would be LUCKY to reach 100k without SERIOUS work. Hence the reason they only had 5-digit odometers. (On a sidenote, Chrysler had a German engineer build the 2.2 turbo motor, as well as the hemi, his name was Willem L. Weertman.
You're one of the extremely lucky Grand owners out there.
In my years of living in a mechanics family and working on cars, I've never seen more critical flaws than I have in the Jeep Grand Cherokees. I've seen insanely stupid stuff like drive axels with the splines rounded off, pinions that are mising teeth and wipe the 3rd member (if so installed) out. I've replaced more ball-joints than you can shake a stick at and torn apart more destroyed transfer cases than it thought possible to destroy without a class-action law suit.
You better be carefull with that Cherokee. You've been lucky so far, but when it breaks, it's gonna be dead. Major failures are like Dominos untill everything is replaced.
What good is a car with a good warranty if you're in the shop every year using it because something else broke? Thats a pain in the @$$.
Get a WRX. It's from a proven manufacturer with a good reputation of racing factory-spec powertrains in the worst of conditions (rally). Don't go with a company that has put out SERIOUSLY inferior products in the past. It's just a bad idea.
My guess is that by the time the SRT's get to be 7 years old, Dodge will regret putting a warranty that long on it. With a 20k car and work on cars being as expensive as it is, it's not hard to imagine repairs on a poorly built car exceeding 20k over 7 years.
Oh, and on a more recent note, the first company to issue a recall on the 2005 model year cars was Dodge. There's a problem with the Caravans that may cause the seatbelts to fail to restrain occupants in a crash. Here in Virginia, you can't even get the 2005 Caravans yet. Pretty sad when there's a recall out for a car that's not even made it off the delivery truck.
You're one of the extremely lucky Grand owners out there.
In my years of living in a mechanics family and working on cars, I've never seen more critical flaws than I have in the Jeep Grand Cherokees. I've seen insanely stupid stuff like drive axels with the splines rounded off, pinions that are mising teeth and wipe the 3rd member (if so installed) out. I've replaced more ball-joints than you can shake a stick at and torn apart more destroyed transfer cases than it thought possible to destroy without a class-action law suit.
You better be carefull with that Cherokee. You've been lucky so far, but when it breaks, it's gonna be dead. Major failures are like Dominos untill everything is replaced.
What good is a car with a good warranty if you're in the shop every year using it because something else broke? Thats a pain in the @$$.
Get a WRX. It's from a proven manufacturer with a good reputation of racing factory-spec powertrains in the worst of conditions (rally). Don't go with a company that has put out SERIOUSLY inferior products in the past. It's just a bad idea.
My guess is that by the time the SRT's get to be 7 years old, Dodge will regret putting a warranty that long on it. With a 20k car and work on cars being as expensive as it is, it's not hard to imagine repairs on a poorly built car exceeding 20k over 7 years.
Oh, and on a more recent note, the first company to issue a recall on the 2005 model year cars was Dodge. There's a problem with the Caravans that may cause the seatbelts to fail to restrain occupants in a crash. Here in Virginia, you can't even get the 2005 Caravans yet. Pretty sad when there's a recall out for a car that's not even made it off the delivery truck.
