3 ultraluxury Cadillacs to come?
02-26-2004
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3 ultraluxury Cadillacs to come?
Wow. What do you guys think?
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- A sedan larger than DeVille with all the amenities, a V-8 engine, rear- and all-wheel-drive, priced from $60,000 to $70,000. It would build 4,000 to 5,000 units worldwide.
- A rear-all-wheel-drive sedan with a V-12 engine that would sell for about $120,000. Production would be about 2,000 worldwide.
- A sedan with a supercharged V-12 or V-16 engine priced at about $300,000 with sales of about 200 to 300 units worldwide each.
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- A sedan larger than DeVille with all the amenities, a V-8 engine, rear- and all-wheel-drive, priced from $60,000 to $70,000. It would build 4,000 to 5,000 units worldwide.
- A rear-all-wheel-drive sedan with a V-12 engine that would sell for about $120,000. Production would be about 2,000 worldwide.
- A sedan with a supercharged V-12 or V-16 engine priced at about $300,000 with sales of about 200 to 300 units worldwide each.
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Eh, I havent been impressed with Cadillacs styling lately, not to mension their lack luster performance. 
Ex: the CTS only made it to D-Stock... where the Integra R and the BMW 330 Csi rule. Not very impressive for a car thats suppose to be putting down 255HP and 252 lb-ft of torque, just goes to show how 3500 LBS can hurt you in the corners.... It will be interesting where the CTS-V ends up, and if those extra ponys help it at all.
Ex: the CTS only made it to D-Stock... where the Integra R and the BMW 330 Csi rule. Not very impressive for a car thats suppose to be putting down 255HP and 252 lb-ft of torque, just goes to show how 3500 LBS can hurt you in the corners.... It will be interesting where the CTS-V ends up, and if those extra ponys help it at all.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Zzyzx
Eh, I havent been impressed with Cadillacs styling lately, not to mension their lack luster performance.
Ex: the CTS only made it to D-Stock... where the Integra R and the BMW 330 Csi rule. Not very impressive for a car thats suppose to be putting down 255HP and 252 lb-ft of torque, just goes to show how 3500 LBS can hurt you in the corners.... It will be interesting where the CTS-V ends up, and if those extra ponys help it at all.
Eh, I havent been impressed with Cadillacs styling lately, not to mension their lack luster performance.
Ex: the CTS only made it to D-Stock... where the Integra R and the BMW 330 Csi rule. Not very impressive for a car thats suppose to be putting down 255HP and 252 lb-ft of torque, just goes to show how 3500 LBS can hurt you in the corners.... It will be interesting where the CTS-V ends up, and if those extra ponys help it at all.
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WHO GIVES A FU(K WHAT AUTO-X CLASS ITS IN CADILLAC DID NOT MAKE THEM FOR THAT. thats outa my system now.
WHO GIVES A FU(K WHAT AUTO-X CLASS ITS IN CADILLAC DID NOT MAKE THEM FOR THAT. thats outa my system now.
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Originally posted by sadboy916
WHO GIVES A FU(K WHAT AUTO-X CLASS ITS IN CADILLAC DID NOT MAKE THEM FOR THAT. thats outa my system now.
WHO GIVES A FU(K WHAT AUTO-X CLASS ITS IN CADILLAC DID NOT MAKE THEM FOR THAT. thats outa my system now.
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Yes, but when Cadillac markets their cars to be the best in class, have the best performance, etc... and thet can't stack up, then that's when it matters.
Yes, but when Cadillac markets their cars to be the best in class, have the best performance, etc... and thet can't stack up, then that's when it matters.
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Rep Power: 357 Originally posted by sadboy916
some mr2's do better in auto-x than lamborghinis does that mean the mr2 is a better car in your eyes?
some mr2's do better in auto-x than lamborghinis does that mean the mr2 is a better car in your eyes?
stock classes there is no MR2 that would out run a Lamborghini, once you start to modify then its any bodys game.
Top MR2:MR-2 Turbo, B-Stock (where the S2000 and Porsche Boxter Rule)
Modern Lamborghini.... at a minimum SS(the fastes stock class), however they may not be leagl for stock classes so they probably run ASP (the fastes street prepaired class).
I see autocross as a better way to compair performanc between 2 cars because yousee the strengths and weaknesses of each car (specifically Stock classes). where if you just look at HP and 1/4 mile times you get a scued view of the cars. the CTS, has decent HP, however its weight its a huge liability for performance.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Zzyzx
stock classes there is no MR2 that would out run a Lamborghini, once you start to modify then its any bodys game.
Top MR2:MR-2 Turbo, B-Stock (where the S2000 and Porsche Boxter Rule)
Modern Lamborghini.... at a minimum SS(the fastes stock class), however they may not be leagl for stock classes so they probably run ASP (the fastes street prepaired class).
I see autocross as a better way to compair performanc between 2 cars because yousee the strengths and weaknesses of each car (specifically Stock classes). where if you just look at HP and 1/4 mile times you get a scued view of the cars. the CTS, has decent HP, however its weight its a huge liability for performance.
stock classes there is no MR2 that would out run a Lamborghini, once you start to modify then its any bodys game.
Top MR2:MR-2 Turbo, B-Stock (where the S2000 and Porsche Boxter Rule)
Modern Lamborghini.... at a minimum SS(the fastes stock class), however they may not be leagl for stock classes so they probably run ASP (the fastes street prepaired class).
I see autocross as a better way to compair performanc between 2 cars because yousee the strengths and weaknesses of each car (specifically Stock classes). where if you just look at HP and 1/4 mile times you get a scued view of the cars. the CTS, has decent HP, however its weight its a huge liability for performance.
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I AM a fan of cadillac however. Their new cars are sweet and CTSV is the ****. That thing can haul. As I recall, it owns the M5.
I AM a fan of cadillac however. Their new cars are sweet and CTSV is the ****. That thing can haul. As I recall, it owns the M5.
03-02-2004
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Rep Power: 357 Originally posted by sadboy916
yea because its still a luxury car but it will rip most cars a new one. cadillacs are not track cars there drivers cars.
yea because its still a luxury car but it will rip most cars a new one. cadillacs are not track cars there drivers cars.
sure its fast but only in a straight line, and that dont impress me. and I know they are not track cars, but I also say they arnt drivers cars either. They are Lazy, look at me, Heavy footed, bad handling, poor drivers cars.
a drivers car is somthing thats equally at home cruzing down the Blvd as it is dancing down a mountain road. Something like a BMW 3 or 5 series.
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Rep Power: 357 No, they are built for americans who are pretty much the worst drivers in the world (we have the Most lax Licencing system of 1st world conuntrys). handling is a matter of weight, suspension design and tires. so Yes I'd say that cadilacs don't have very good handling.
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Rep Power: 0 i dont think cadillacs are ment to be driven around in a track, its mostly just for comfort and luxury, i dont think the guy who can afford the price tag would go around trying to cut corners with it
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Rep Power: 0 CTS-V's 5.7-liter V8 engine generates 400 horsepower and 395 ft-lbs of torque
Powertrain features:
• Most powerful engine in its class—highest horsepower and most torque
• Light, strong all-aluminum construction
• 2-valve cylinder heads
• 0-60 in 4.6 seconds
• ¼ mile in 13.1 seconds/107 mph
Powertrain features:
• Most powerful engine in its class—highest horsepower and most torque
• Light, strong all-aluminum construction
• 2-valve cylinder heads
• 0-60 in 4.6 seconds
• ¼ mile in 13.1 seconds/107 mph
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by sCoTtEh
i dont think cadillacs are ment to be driven around in a track, its mostly just for comfort and luxury, i dont think the guy who can afford the price tag would go around trying to cut corners with it
i dont think cadillacs are ment to be driven around in a track, its mostly just for comfort and luxury, i dont think the guy who can afford the price tag would go around trying to cut corners with it
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