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Hey guys I just want to know all of your opinions. What do you think is better? A K20 Swap with little internals done, like cams, retainers, valve springs, done on a Type S motor. Or staying with the stock D17 and putting a turbo by SF???? Which is the better choice??? Has anyone with a turbo raced an RSX and beat them???? your answers will choose the fate of my car in exactly 4 months.











MY FUNDS: 15,000 to do what ever with my lx

 
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i would think a turboed k20 would be best

 
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wat he said..... 15k... u could get a nice k20 turbo set up for that much

 
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I think he wanted to know if he should Get a K20 (non turbo) VS Turbo'd D17...

If you have 15k$ then i guess you can do the K20 turbo it, and it would be a lot faster =]

 
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I was thinking about that, but I have to do other things too.....I need all new suspension, new rims and tires a body kit because I have no front bumper due to drifting. Need to straighten my frame because of that, new exhaust and need to remove all the dents and repaint my whole care. I am one big mess right now

 
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jeez, $15k? I would just go buy another car

 
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naw my car is payed off and I owe nothing, plus the other 15000 im going to invest.

 
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all motor.
k20a2 with bolt ons run 13s. build up motor.you can probably run 12s all day with n/a

 
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what would win, a turbo civic or a K20 civic?????

 
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turbo i think

 
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i would think a k20 but i could be wrong....


what about u be the first one to do a k24 with the type r head or type s in a 7thgen

 
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i would defenately do that swap if HAsport has the mount kit for it...

i think they are working on it

 
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wow...sounds like you beat the hell out if it.
drifting??? how about you take your 15 g's and buy a RWD car?
then you can power drift, instead of what ever you do in the civic that you call drifting.
are you driving in reverse?
please explain to me how it is you "drift" in a FWD...
i would think it would just slide off the road.......my 2¢

 
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Hey i am interestedin this topic too, only i am not doing the mod until July of 04. However i would still like to know which is better before i go buy the engine. Also i would like ot know what is a k24 (what car is it from? how many hp does it have(ballpark) ?

 
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I've raced turbo d16's, gsx's, gst's, and a focus turbo and not lost against them..... I have however lost to a turbo z24 cavalier (11 psi t3 turbo) and a gtp grand prix (14psi pulley, chip, intake, catbacks)... I say the k20 will wiin!

 
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I'll be the first here with that (K24 W/TypeR head), plus the 6-speed with LSD....End of winter is the plan.
If anyone does it faster then my most sincere congrats to you.

Turbo the following year....

 
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HAHAHAA lair ! i want it lol that would be crazy fast.

the k24 is from the accord i4 and prolly something else maybe the tsx i dont remember

edit sorry i am use to saying v6

 
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there is no such thing as a v4
is it a v6?

 
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cause i have a 2003 civic and i think my moms 2003 4 cyl accord motor would fit..?haha do you think she would notice if i switched them?

 
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civic-king brings up a good point, exactly how were u drifting with a FWD car?

 
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or how about this, where do you find a v4
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let me clarify things up a bit...

first, there's no V4...4 cylinders engines comes inline and not in "V" (there's also inline 6 cylinders and they are NOT called V6...cars such as supra, bmw M3 have inline 6 cylinders engines)

second, the K24 engine is basically the same as the K20 but with a bigger block (more displacement, hence more torque but doesn't rev as high as K20). This engine comes from:
- CR-V
- 4 Cylinder Accord
- Element
- TSX

All these 4 cars use the same block, only things that make their HP different is probably the head and some internals (i might be wrong on that, plz correct me...)

finaly, people do K24 block with K20 head to have more torque but still keep the high rev limit of the K20...it's also called a "frankenstein" or in the past, a ls/vtec

 
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ya i understand about inline 4's, inline6's, and v6's. I was just trying to understan about the k24 and k20 thing because i had never hear the name of that engine before (all the while it was sitting in the garage right under my nose)(hold on now i am gonna go look at it). Thanks, do you know how much this is gonna cost, when i wanna do it myself? i would like to do teh k24 block and k20 head, when the motor mounts come out, because i am a fan of hi revving engines too. Thanks soo much for the info
just need prices

 
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as far as i know, K24 swap would be a lot cheaper than a K20A(JDM Integra Type-R) straight from japan and unlike the K20A, the K24 can be found easily cuz there's a lot of cars that have it right now.

this will defenately be a good alternative to the expensive K20A or even K20A2 (USDM RSX Type-S)...and you get more power at the end...

 
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Accelerate towards a corner, when you hit the corner pull the E-brake(dont let the button out)
and turn hard,your *** end slides(drifts around the corner)drop the E-brake,and accelerate hard out of the corner, all quickly and smoothly and you have a FWD drift
(DONT TRY THIS AT HOME UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING)

 
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Ya, this guy who owns parks racing, quoted me $8,500 bucks for the engine and tranny. installed and all, i thought that was kind of expensive. so i wanted to do it myself for cheaper. but lets say i get an engine from an 03 accord, or crv, etc... How do i get it to be comparable to the tsx horsepower, and what kind of tranny do i use for it? the same 6 speed tranny, that the k20a uses ? and would it be better to get a tsx with 200 horsepower, or just get the one from the accord and just go straight to work on internal engine mods.

 
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ok for you people asking how I drift with a front wheel drive is simple to explain but really hard to actually do. I have to use my e-brake all the time, what it does my back tires lock up while I jerk the either hard right or left causing the rear end to swing out, I have to constantly use the e brake while turning up, down, up, down, etc....the e brake I mean. If you mess up then like what I did slam my left corner into the side of the mountain

 
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and sorry to burst you bubble that is not a technical drift, that is sliding. trust me i have drifted enough

 
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yeah, X-R8ED explains it very well and like he says DON"T TRY THIS AT HOME unless you know what you are doing, Well I know what I am doing, its just people make mistakes sometimes and I made a really bad one. I don't drift anymore or I try not too, it scares me, because I almost lost my life, if I were to go right then I would have went over a steep ciff about 600 feet down.

 
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Here's what it would come down to for me:

How long do you plan on keeping the car and how serious are you about performance?

The turbo is going to give you pretty quick gratification for a reasonable amount of money. You'll have about the same hp as a swap is going to give you. Maybe a little bit more. However, the D17 engine is pretty weak on its own. If you stick with the D17, that turbo is going to more or less make you reach your "terminal velocity" if you will. You will have hit the max that engine will do.

If you go the swap route, it's going to be more money, time, effort, frustration, and, oh yeah - money. You'll end up with more torque, and a lot more potential. You'll also have the uniqueness of having that swapped engine which very few people have right now.

If you're in this for the long-haul, go for the swap. If you plan on being done after this, go with the turbo.