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turbo the vic engine and put internals and head work and everything else

 
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The D17 is slowly getting the support it needs, like the KMS manifold which would help if y turboed it. I still think the k20 or frankenstein swap has more potential, but I would love saying "You got beat by a 1.7 liter" if you went the turbo d17 road. And you could crank down the boost and get better mileage and better power to weight ratio than the frankenstein.

 
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Interesting, we need a couple so calers to run. Weve got at least 3 SF turbos, and I think 2 swaps done.

 
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holy **** 15000 is a lot of money i think if you go with d17 turbo you will eventully run out of options. there is only so much you can do with a sohc d series there isnt really a big market for this motor.
i would go with the k20a2 full front clip that would be real nice then you would really stand out from the crowdimp:
15k dddaaammmmmmmmmmnnn that makes me sickuke:

 
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there we go ssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkk

 
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acura 2.5 tl is a 5

 
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hey khmaitiger we are still on the subject about the 3 cylinder V4, etc.... how funny

 
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Its good to see my thread back up again thanks for all the info again guys.....but what do you guys think is it better to keep the D17 and do internals and turbo or K20 with internal and I did keep inmind about the weight of the K20 would it really make a difference in performance in my civic bad or good, and I am really thinking about the K20, but I don't want the weight to kill me, what do you guys think

 
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yeah, chevy is coming out with a 5 cylinder its new colorado pickup next year, its suppose to give great gas mileage with the power of a 6 cylinder

 
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i would definitely go with the k20a2, thats the type s motor, and i am positive it will win against a d17 turbo. caranddriver tested the type s in the 0-60 and they got 6.1sec, heres the link

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

you will also get a 7900 redline.

 
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Please read the turbo d17 threads found elsewhere on this forum. A turbo d17 right now will absolutely kill a stock k20a2 for about half the price.

 
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i say why not just buy a S2000 and call it a day, either way you would smoke both a Civic with turbo or an Civic with a K20 swap with turbo My friend has a Vortech supercharger and he gets around 320 HP in his S2000

 
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Because some of us are not fortunate enough to afford a s2k, and others may enjoy modding a civic more than buying another car and "calling it a day".

And there is someone on the boards that will own your friend's S2000. Bad.

 
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Talking about weight issues...the K20A seems to be 90lbs lighter than any B-series engine according to what i've heard from somewhere i forgot...

but can you confirm me the weight of a K20A and a K24 if have that info? i can't seem to find it anywhere...they always talk about the car's weight but not the engine's weight...

another thing you should consider is a turbo D17 wouldn't last as long as a N/A tuned K20A...
i'm not a mechanic and can't go technique on that but simply think of the fact that turbo pushes your car to its limits and will defenately shorten its life...it's simple and logic...(and our engines are not meant to be turbo'd)

if that's your everyday driver, you should also consider gas/mileage...i think turbo drinks like a bitch...

anyways...i would defenately go for the K20A...i don't like turbos anyways...it seems to fukk your car up good...lol...anyways...

 
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if you keep the boost down for daily driving the gas mileage will be affected much. Maybe skin off like 1 or 2 mpg. Ya the turbo will harm the D17 in the long run even if preperly put together, meaning that maybe after 100k mi+ you will have probs, versus a K20 should be able to go 200k mi no prob. Internals done on either engine will also limit their life span too- remember.

 
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How exactly do u drift in your civic????

With 15k the best option is to buy a faster car, but if I had to choose I would go with k20, because then if u still need more power u can get a turbo for the k20; rather than buying a turbo for the d17 then finding out u still want more power and having to crack open the engine in a desperate attempt to increase your BOOST!

 
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well let me restate myself power sliding, almost the same thing

 
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i say if your going to do other work to the car, such as suspension, exterior, interior work... you'll have about $11.5K to work with if you go the SF Turbo route because it will cost you around $3.5k...

Now you have money for full coilover kit, a nice set of 17 inch or 18 inch rims, body kit, and any other little stuff you want to do to your car... and you'll still have a lot of money to spare which you can put into savings....

 
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Another thing to consider: a replacement d17 costs about 20% as much as a replacement k20a2.

 
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I am going to turbo my d17.
SF Power for me.
SF turbo fund: Working on it

 
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If you are going to spend an honest 15k on your car, then this is what you should do. Stafford Fabrications and us (Dh-Racing) have yet to push the potential of the D17 even close to the limit. We are running 9 PSI, and our Ported head and breaking way into the 12's for sure. This all done with much less then the 15k you are talking about. Now the logical thing would be to get a D17 sleeved, and fully built custom bolt-ons, and use Stafford Kits. This would have the ease of being a NHRA car with no problems. With the proper suspension and traction/axles you could easily launch deep into the 10's or as far as you can handle it. K20 would be nice yes, and to boost it would be a thrill, but, and I say BUT K20 Motors like the old ITR's come pre-built why do you think they make so much power. You can build them and do the same thing as the D17, but both in our eyes, and SF's eyes the D17 has a lot more room for optimizing power, and pushing limits. Just a little thought before you go breaking your pocket just to say you have a K20.

 
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but how long will my D17 last if I do all that to my car people say if you turbo or build your motor then the life span of the motor drops I just read this in some other forum is this true

 
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dragqueen if you cant afford an S2000 then i suggest you pick your white trash self up and try a better job

 
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OK what are u talking about

 
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i could be wrong but last time i checked if you do a engine swap, you also should upgrade the suspension as well as several other bolt ons to really tap out all the potential of this new engine. Lets do the math 17,500 for a civic, 3,000 for a K20 engine, around 3,000 for the install including labor and all parts now if you add other bolt ons such as exhaust, intake, new coil over suspension you should be around 27k or more. Now im not saying doing swaps are stupid but for all that cash spent on that install why not just buy a car around that same price for that would still be faster then your car with all those installs???? one that i can think of is the WRX or the EVO 8????

 
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ah my car is paid off and my parents payed for it and now I am working and have all this money to spend. I want to buy a new car but I love my civic

 
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smurf killer you are lucky i still have to pay payments on my ride as soon as i finish school i am so getting a S2000 or a 93 model RX-7 i really like those

 
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oh plus its my first car and I have a connection with it now, plus we've been through alot of stuff together