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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question. If not, my bad. And before i get flamed for not searching, I did, and I came up with so much stuff I couldn't find what I was looking for. On that note, I'm sure this question has been asked, but what kind of damage is done to our cars if you shift with out lettng off the gas? Also, I've seen people shift when they get to high rpm's with out using the clutch. Never done it myself. What kind of dmage does that do to our cars? If anyone can help out this illiterate fool I'd appreciate it.
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Rep Power: 339 without using the clutch?!?!?!? ive heard of ppl being able to shift gears without using the clutch, but its difficult to do without eventually damaging your gears...
as for not letting go of the gas, thats doable.. jsut it could lead to premature wear of your clutch
as for not letting go of the gas, thats doable.. jsut it could lead to premature wear of your clutch
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Rep Power: 332 It can strip out the gears on the tranny if you don't know what you are doing. Then you are in lots of trouble. It's best to shift properly until you are good at clutchless shifting. I had an old beater that I drove for a while that I learned to shift like this in. It's really not that useful unless you are racing and then it's not going to affect your time much considering we already have 16 second cars. A 10 second car is different of course, but those our civics are not.
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Its actually a bit slower to shift with out the clutch (especially with a car with syncromesh rather then Dog rings), because you have to wait untill the Rpm's of the engine equal the Rpm's of the transmission, but onece they do the gear will just slide right in.
so heres the Technique
when you want to shift, simply pull the car out of the gear you're in and push it towards the higher gear. DO NOT TRY TO SLAM IT IN TO THE NEXT GEAR!!!! with gential pressure on the higher gear, when the RPM's of the engine and the Transmission are the same, the gear will slip right in. Down shifting is a bit trickier, as you have to rev-match for it to work.
so heres the Technique
when you want to shift, simply pull the car out of the gear you're in and push it towards the higher gear. DO NOT TRY TO SLAM IT IN TO THE NEXT GEAR!!!! with gential pressure on the higher gear, when the RPM's of the engine and the Transmission are the same, the gear will slip right in. Down shifting is a bit trickier, as you have to rev-match for it to work.
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Rep Power: 0 most of the newer hondata chips can regulate that. you can set your ecu to drop your RPMS by a certain number while your shifting even when your still flooring it. I think that's what it said on their website but not too sure.. sorry if this is kinda off topic.. but maybe the people who do the whole not-letting-foot-off-the-gas do that. I wouldn't suggest shifting without the clutch though.
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Rep Power: 380 ????? How does the ECU konw what gear you're going in to? and what if you're down shifting? Dosnt seem to be something the ECU could do.
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"Full throttle shift uses the same clutch switch input as launch control. When the vehicle is moving and your foot is on the clutch, the rev limit is dropped to around 6000 rpm (this can be changed). This allows the rpm to be matched while shifting gears while keeping the throttle wide open, which speeds up gear shifts and helps keep turbo chargers spooled up. Great for improving those 1/4 mile times, and sounds pretty cool from outside the car too. Here is an in car video of a full throttle shift.
For bracket racing tests have shown that ET repeatability to less than 1/10th of a second is achievable without the use of an automatic. Apart from all that. It is a lot of fun."
Well I guess I didn't do a good job in explaining it.. but yah...
"Full throttle shift uses the same clutch switch input as launch control. When the vehicle is moving and your foot is on the clutch, the rev limit is dropped to around 6000 rpm (this can be changed). This allows the rpm to be matched while shifting gears while keeping the throttle wide open, which speeds up gear shifts and helps keep turbo chargers spooled up. Great for improving those 1/4 mile times, and sounds pretty cool from outside the car too. Here is an in car video of a full throttle shift.
For bracket racing tests have shown that ET repeatability to less than 1/10th of a second is achievable without the use of an automatic. Apart from all that. It is a lot of fun."
Well I guess I didn't do a good job in explaining it.. but yah...
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Rep Power: 380 Well I guess it could work. I dont think it would be a good Idea for road racing though. That many shifts over that long of a time = One beat to crap transmission. Interesting Idea though.
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Rep Power: 0 shfiting without letting up on the gas is often known as power shifting....
it's terrible for the clutch, and synchros on your transmission. Both will get worn out much faster.
Also, you'll likely slip the tires engaging the next gear, which is actually slower.
It IS however, a technique used by cars with turbos to keep the turbo spooled up. Useful for drag races with turbo cars, but otherwise, not good.
it's terrible for the clutch, and synchros on your transmission. Both will get worn out much faster.
Also, you'll likely slip the tires engaging the next gear, which is actually slower.
It IS however, a technique used by cars with turbos to keep the turbo spooled up. Useful for drag races with turbo cars, but otherwise, not good.
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