I'm currently looking at a 2015 (pre facelift) 9th gen and keep hearing you need to rev to 4000 RPM to get any torque whatsoever.

Coming from a 2001 7th gen 1.6 so it's not like I'm stepping out of a racecar..

That old Civic has approximately NIL torque, but it does at least pull at low revs..

I'm wondering if the 9th gen will feel slower and need to be worked harder despite having a couple more horses in it ?

Also whether the driver experience will be more disconnected ?

Going to test drive before buying of course, but pre-empting due to the insane car shortages in the UK

Had hoped to pick up an FN2 but it's a very difficult market ATM

Thx

they are heavier

Just compared the on paper specs .. posted below... 91Kg difference (I do need to lose 30Kg mind )
Just learned 30cm wider so not great for parallel parking !!
And the 7th gen had independent rear suspension and 9th has torsion beam.. really??
I mean it looks faster on paper.. trying to establish if it'll be a disappointment if anyone can enlighten me
I vowed not to replace my 1.6SE with something even more sluggish...
[You are pretty much committing to buy a car if you try and secure one in the UK right now.. sellers market.. it's sooo bad]

7th Gen 1.6 v 9th Gen 1.8

Dimensions
Weight 1170kg v 1261kg
Length 4140mm v 4300mm
Width 1695mm v 2065mm
Height 1440mm v 1470mm
Wheelbase 2570mm v 2595mm
Turning Circle 10m v 11m

Performance
Power 108 bhp v 140 bhp
Top Speed 116 mph v 134 mph
0-60 mph 10 secs v 8.8 secs
Torque 152 Nm, 111 ft-lb v 174 Nm, 128 ft-lb
CO2 Emissions 157 g/km v 145 g/km
Euro Emissions Standard 3 v 5
Miles Per Tank 462 miles v 505 miles

Anything stopping you from driving the 7th gen for a bit longer? I wouldn’t buy anything right now if I could avoid it.

Not much longer.. ABS has flickered on a few times.. exhaust is blowing.. other issues. It won't pass the next upcoming inspection my garage tells me (due in a couple months) and false economy putting more money in!

I might look at later 8th gen models.. if I'm honest.. I don't know what Honda was thinking with the 9th Gen design it is not a nice car to look at IMO

Well, the extra couple months does afford you some time to find a better deal.

Mechanically, the 8th and 9th gen civics are pretty similar, so there's lots of info on here (assuming they're the same in Europe, which I believe they are)

Thanks Chezboat..
The deal on the car is okay.
£8k (approx $11k) for a 2015 1.8 Silver, 1 owner from new FSH with 60k on the clock with1yr main dealer warranty and breakdown cover is decent in the current UK climate.
It's the look (and the allegedly poor performance due to eco leanings - will find out during test drive today) that concern me.
Not committed to buying, but I likely will - it's the best deal I've seen in a few weeks perpetual searching.
If I don't make a decision today, I bet you the car will be sold to someone else this time tomorrow!
Another car that was suggested in my budget is a brand new Dacia ... 66bhp and does 0 to 60 in 16.7 seconds!!!
Downright dangerous IMO !!
If I do not buy the car today, I have found a VTEC specialist locally who says they will help find an FN2 in good shape..
I'm not sure there are many of those around... and the specialist says many are rusting badly now.
This one below is available to me for £4.5k so half the price of the gen 3.. I'd buy this in a heartbeat if I knew it was sound
Unfortunately it doesn't have history to go off and needs inspection etc
Cheers