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I've been looking at buying a new car and have been very interested in the Civic Type R. The price looked good, the speed looked good, and it had most of the bells and whistles I was looking for in the convenience/safety department (2020 model).

Trouble is I asked a local dealer (I live in New Mexico so very few dealers) about the procedure for getting one and was told that they would need to order one and I couldn't even reserve one without agreeing to $4,000 of optional extras on the car (I assume there's additional dealer fees after that, but I didn't ask further).

I went to cargurus and it looks like there are some 2019's that are selling within 400 miles for MSRP (at least that's what's on their site), but I can't find any 2020 models for sale. Based on my research it looks like the average dealer markup is around $4K anyway, so the fact that they're willing to at least give me some "extras" for the money is a "good deal".https://19216811.cam https://xender.vip https://testmyspeed.onl

 
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Honestly, if you can swing the FK8 and want all of that -- at the dealer markup price -- go for it. Can't quite compare the FK8 and the Si because they're honestly different cars, save for some of the body styling. I have an '18 sport hatchback, and a $450 KTuner made it faster than a stock Si coupe, despite mine being a CVT (no lie, settled with the CVT bc MT models were in very short supply at the time) and quite a bit heavier than the coupe.

If you're looking at a 2020, make sure you look into all the Honda sensing crap that tossed onto the FK8. Personally, all those "amenities" disconnect the driver from the car, not really something I'd personally want on a car that's more track-oriented than the non Type-R counterparts.

 
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An Si certainly does not replace the Type R so if you have the money the Type R would be the better choice as far as performance goes.

Is getting the Type R worth the extra cost to you? With some dealers marking them up so much I would definitely look at a Golf R or STI for the money.

 
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Now, if you can find one used from a private seller for close to MSRP, I'd hop on that. I've seen on other forums people selling their FK8s for low 30's with lo mileage.

That's not to say that the non Type-R Civics aren't fun cars. They're agile, have good amount of pep to their step, great fuel economy. The hatch has plenty of cargo room, and spacious seating. As much as I would have liked a 6MT from the get-go, I have zero regrets getting my CVT hatch. I've actually turned quite a few people into Honda people after they took a ride/test drive in my car. lol