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Seriously now... For what you get, is it really worth it? Doing the conversions, an Civic Type R would run about $25000, basically the same as an RSX-S (which it basically is, but in mini mini-van form). Then you start the same thing as the RSX/Si game. The DC5 would run considerably more however. If you figure the FP suspension would up the car to about $30000, by the time all the drive train stuff is in there, you'd be looking towards 34000 or more. Would you really pay that? At the same time remembering that the Z runs fully loaded for about the same (the Track model) with 67 more horses? Yes, the ITR is an enthusiasts car, but has the import tuner mistique about it, which may come across as not a good thing to those who can afford it. Sure, it would be great, but for 35000, and given what else sells here for 35K, I just don't know if it would fly well. Sure it's a great car, and would find its market (and its dreamers), but I think I'm beginning to see why it isn't here. I'm sure, given the funds, everyone on here would say yes, but in terms of the market as a whole, I just don't think it would do so well, maybe they should just have it for special order...

 
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if your ballin why not? i say if you got the money go for it.

 
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I would but that is in large part due to my bias, namely my friend having a 2001 Integra type R. Listening and feeling to the VTEC engage at 5000 rpm (AEM EMS) is amazing. having 220hp and beating a V8 stang gt with 260hp is unbelievable. he can beat camaro z28's and he only loses by a car length to the M3. the best thing of it is, the car is naturally aspirated which everybody finds unbelievable (mostly the stang owners). My friend paid 25,000 for the car and for the handling, power, and shocked looks on the people's faces when he blows by them I would jump at the chance to get one

B18C5

 
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type r or si or whatever, youll never catch me behind the wheel of one of those bastard children of a minivan

 
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NO


VERY FUGLY


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I have to disagree, I think the CTR is sweet!!! Maybe b/c I'm a hatch guy, but the rims are so nice too!!! My friend just bought an ITR shipped over here (Texas) from Alabama w/ 13K miles for $24K...I gotta jack the keys someday, but maybe that wont be a good Idea b/c I wont wanna drive my Civic anymore...

 
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I think that car is a work of art

 
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No thank you

 
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Jon what does your friend have in his ITR to make is have 220HP? I thought that the ITR only had 195Hp.

 
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Does he have a VAFC? Cuz the VTEC in that car kicks in at 5,500. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] 220HP is pretty much the limit to most Type R engine's after some modifications. Yes, the DC2R is F@#kin quick from 0 - 143MPH. Everything about it is pretty flawless. I wouldn't do much to that car. If it REALLY only loses to an M3 by a carlength then I wonder what the new DC5R would do modified since it already starts out with 220HP? From what I've seen the new DC5R is a satisfactory improvement over the DC2R. It handles turning better and it's faster.

First of all the Civic Type R beats out an RSX Type S in every performance aspect. A Type S is NO Type R what-so-ever. The FP suspension is not the original DC5R suspension, it's based on it. I wouldn't dare try to make a Type S into Type R, but TODA Racing's Type S is the only company that provides high compression engine internals that replicate those found on the DC5R which is another option. Importing a Type R here in all it's parts is gonna run you about $44k. An Acura DC5R will run two to three grand more than the Type S which would be a steal and an *** kick for those who bought the FP package but who knows if it is gonna come? It's not the kind of car to make cash off of, especially if the Type S isn't selling as well compared to the WRX Impreza which gets a 2004 STi. Honda so far has nothing to compete with it.

But to answer your question, would I buy a Type R? Civic - no. Not even if they actually released it. RSX/Integra DC5 - yes. A Type S is not enough to satisfy my needs. It's coming to me either through Acura or across the shores. Why? Well... it's obviously my favorite car.

EDIT: The rims are $500 each.

 
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If they bring the Civic R, ill take it...if they bring both or just the Integra, id go with that.

 
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yes,i dont really like the front,but other than that the car is beautiful,no body mods needed,but interior and engine mods are definiate but yes i would buy.

 
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this is what my friend has on his 2k1 itr (prepare yourself):

aem cai
skunk2 intake manifold
aem fpr
aem cam gears (2 advanced intake, 1.5 retarded exhaust)
aem pullies
jdm dc sports 4-1 header
custom 3" hi-flo cat
GReddy cat-back (from LS)
AEM EMS (VTEC at 5000 rpm in daily driving but 4500 rpm at drag strip)
magnecore ignition wires
denso iridium spark plugs
jun lightened flywheel
act heavy duty clutch kit
street/strip disc
b&m fuel gauge
dc sports short shifter
yellow koni's
h&r sport springs
nitto nt555's (street)
16" volk te37's (11 lbs. each)
1/4 time: 14.195@97mph

future: oversized valves (undetermined company), skunk 2 titanium retainers, skunk2 valve springs, skunk2 stage II camshafts, JE Pistons 11.5:1, eagle rods, port & polishing, and engine balancing
estimated 205-225@wheels

he definitely surprises a lot of cars and if he bought slicks for the strip he'd be in the high 13's no problem

 
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i would get it ..the car kick's *** hahahahaha
after its slammed that is.

 
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itr's have 220hp? what kinda mods does he have? i always thoguht it was 190..maybe its just me..

umm...get a turbo dsm...u can beat v8 stangs with just a k&n...

 
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I would rather have a VW GTI 1.8T chipped with exhaust, intake, headers, and all the guages for less than the Type-R, but that's just me.

(I've noticed that A LOT of the fast imports are much cheaper in Japan. It sucks that we can't get them here for the prices they have over there )

 
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That's because in Japan, they're domestics. Same reasons Fords and Chevys are cheap here.

 
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VTEC in a integra GS-R kicks in at around 4400 RPM'S, I would think that the Type R would be relatively the same but, due to the type R running a single stage intake manifold, it has to kick in later, the Type R is just a top-end machine, it tops out at around 130 lbs/ft torque @ 7100 RPM's, the GS-R gets 128 lbs/ft torque at only 6200 RPM'S. The GS-R is more of a all-around car. The Type R was made more for highspeed track racing, that's why you see them competing in touring competitions. The GS-R is virtually a mild version of the Type R, with improve suspension and more power compared to it's counterpart the LS. However, due to the Dual stage IM that the GS-R occupies, it has a more overall better powerband, the mid range in the GS-R is alot better the the Type R, they had to make the car lighter, hence no AC, no radio, to compensate for the low mid range torque. Honda made 60 engine related changes to get the additional 25 HP from the B18C5. With just 4 changes to the GS-R, you can very well compete with the Type R. Don't get me wrong, the Type R is an amazing machine but, before any of you think of getting one, think about what you want to do with your car. If you want to go Turbo, Type R isn't the answer, The Type R is strictly a NA car, with a 11:1 Compression ratio, it would be stupid to put a turbo in the B18C5. It is even not the greatest idea to go FI in a GS-R but, alot more reasonable compared to the Type R.

 
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I would go for the rsx type R

 
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The CTR

 
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my choice is the old '98 CTR

 
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CTR: hell yes
DC5R: if I had the cash and there was no CTR available

What can i say, i like the hatch.......

 
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I'm not sure if Type-R is "worth it"... I don't think it was built for value point of view. The engine is hand massaged, for starters.

Cars like Type-R, M, AMG, STi, SVT and other niche cars are definitely not made for the best bang for the buck when it comes to performance. But what you get is a factory built vehicle, that has be throughly tested and comes with full bumper to bumper warrenty. You get a fast & fun car, without the aftermarket hassle.

You also get the limited edition exclusivity, and a ton of street cred.... along with the bragging rights.

 
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not worth it at all.

i would just buy an altima.

 
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Type R coupe body stye: YES

That fugly hatchback: NO!!!! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG]

Damn....who smoked a phat rock and designed that thing?

 
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When has there ever been a "Type R coupe body style"? Every Civic Type R has been a hatchback...the only Type R's that are coupes are Integras.

 
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if i had the money then yeah

 
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And the new Type R gets an 11:5 compression ratio and for now is .3 seconds faster than the older Integ Type R and it can take turns faster than the older one.

The older Type R was not expensive for it's value. ($23k) Since the Type S is pretty much priced like the old Type R, it's not gonna really help it be a bang for its buck. Yeah, you get a better Type R but for 2-3k more than it's GS-R/Type S... I dunno. I'd still get it but it'd be like getting a Type S over a WRX... you pay more and get less. Since the car is limited edition-enthusiast... guess you'd have to fall into that category to see around the price if we ever got a DC5R.

 
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no. with a box cutter, dental floss and some silicone, you can change your emblems to whatever you want. changed mine to civic-x by cutting up the LX and painted it. 5 dollars for the copper paint is all it cost me. shoot if i wanna go faster i just take some ex lax and "splaaaaaaat" there goes 5 pounds. take off clothes and get naked theres 10 pounds.