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wow 1k for a computer. I hope it's good for what you're using it for.

 
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so does the VAFC II not work with 03+ civic ecu's???

 
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If it was that high I would never buy it unless I have the internals built up. I couldve got it for 600 a while ago and still can. 600 is a steal compared to aems msrp at 2k+ the item will be legit and brand new. Thats the only reason Im getting it because im getting it dirt cheap. I would not suggest paying over 1k for the aem ecu.

 
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That is a good deal. VafcII I've heard gets reset by the newer ecu, but there's no proof. Maybe ask gtracing I know he tuned his a while back but don't know if he went again. I'm getting mine tuned again but it's on an 02.

 
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so which would be the best bet for a turbo application??

 
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e-manage or aem ems.

 
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ems will be better but do you have the money, that is the question.

 
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So why do you say this wont work with 03-04? I have an 03 EX and installed it this weekend and it's working just fine? Maybe I'm missing something....fill me in if ya don't mind......

 
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I think it resets the vafc for your years

 
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if you read the vafc install we debated it on there but there is no proof yet.. there have been numerous members who got there cars tuned with the vafc2 and have yet to go back later and get it dyno tuned to see if it does reset back to stock

 
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so where did the "rumor" come from then?? any ideas?

 
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u know how when u tune your car then it feels like it went back to stock?.. thats basically people thinking there car is going back to stock.. some thins its the ecu resetting and some think its just you adjusting to the feeling....

 
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that would suck *****. someone should unhook the vafc and see the difference but would you have to retune then?

 
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u probably would.. best thing to do is tune your car with the vafc2 then a few onths or a year from then you go and get it tuned again... is the settings went back to stock then you know for sure... were just waiting on some people to actually do it

 
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It doesn't make sense tho for the ecu to revert back to a non-tuned profile. Everything, including emissions, works better with an ideal a/f ratio.

 
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if your not going to boost then i say go with the vafc. If your going light boost then i say emenage. If you want to make big numbers the EMS. all depends on your goals

 
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I really want to get the SAFC, but the whole reset thing has me worried. Will the ecu reset with emanage? One of these plus that crower cam if it comes out would probaly give me some good gains? Might wait a little while before I go N20.

 
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I'm waiting for cam too. I really don't think the ecu can reset it, since the vafcII modifies the signal AFTER it passes through the ecu. So whatever changes the car would make would automatically be recalculated according to what is set on the vafc.

 
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I think you are right gearbox. I dynoed my car after driving for a month and it was almost exact. Oh emanage inst that great for boosting the 7thgen because our ECUs are crap to begin with. I just sold mine and last Friday I ordered an AEM unit with a 3.5 bar map sensor. Its really the best way to go. The price kills you at 1500 but its worth not tripping the ECU off leaving a car show and being embarrassed in front of all the old-timers. hehe I'll let you guys know how the aem works out. my hopes are high.