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Old Feb 10, 2005
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For god's sakes man, what's your problem?

"As a matter of fact", I wouldn't buy a motor from a ***** like you - so chill. Take the stick out of your @ss man, did someone **** in your Wheaties this morning?

Just asking bro - did they use their I-Beam or H-Beam design? Econo or their steel billet? Mmm, titanium ( )? Look man, those are valid questions that you never answered anywhere. How about cam measurements?

Holy crap, surprise! I HAVE been following this for weeks! Let's count the days in January... 1...2...31! And thus far, we're 1...2... 10 days into February! That gives you 41 (surprise)! Divide that by 7, and that's JUST short of 6 weeks. "Weeks" is the plural form of week, meaning more than one. Oh damn... I've been watching this for weeks then. Seriously man, just chill out - even if you did say all this earlier, then what's the harm in typing a quick answer instead of pulling a "I'm badass" and just flame over the internet?

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What is going on here?

Ill clarify since the we keep in contact with Corwer about the engine build. The parts are going to be the basic Crower equipment which I beleive is the premium alloy steel they use for all other rods. The motor will include as I understand a new:

Cam (not regrind)
Cower Head studs and Rod bolts
Crower Valvetrain to hold up 8k+ revs for the allmotor build
Crower Rods
Possibly a micropolished crank
The motor ofcourse has been taken apart, cleaned, honed and is in brand new rebuild condition.

Metal used: Chromoly 4340 to my knowlege.

I dont know if htere is more, but im sure the motor will be prepped for dyno. Hope that answeres all your questions if I am correct.
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This is over $3000 worth of equipment that will be dynoed, tested, and ready for use. Great deal Kezay!
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what about pistions? that kind of seems important for an allmotor build-up.
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Originally Posted by truehonda
What is going on here?

Ill clarify since the we keep in contact with Corwer about the engine build. The parts are going to be the basic Crower equipment which I beleive is the premium alloy steel they use for all other rods. The motor will include as I understand a new:

Cam (not regrind)
Cower Head studs and Rod bolts
Crower Valvetrain to hold up 8k+ revs for the allmotor build
Crower Rods
Possibly a micropolished crank
The motor ofcourse has been taken apart, cleaned, honed and is in brand new rebuild condition.

Metal used: Chromoly 4340 to my knowlege.

I dont know if htere is more, but im sure the motor will be prepped for dyno. Hope that answeres all your questions if I am correct.
Definately, thanks TrueHonda. Thanks for my Revo SS, btw

Does anybody know the details? I'm curious how the cam specs look in comparison to our stockers... Sounds good!
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Once again Eddie, you come to the rescue.
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For anyone who's still interested - I got an email from Crower this morning with an updated ETA on the D17 cams and valvetrain. Brian said cores arrive in 6 weeks and the tentative release date is in about 10 weeks from today.

We still have a long time to wait..
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Old Feb 16, 2005
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ewwwwww just thinking abour rods makes me a happy man!!! thats just great news to hear for the new turbo set up!
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yeah im here and liking the idea to start producing more products
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Has anyone heard anything new on the new Crower parts...also this is not a thread jacking but look here if you really do want to have more performance for our cars:

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=201014
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Well what I can say guys is that the wait is almost over .....
When I spoke to Crower they said that they will be gettin the shipment of cores month end (March) and then it will take a few days to do the actual different grinds (stage 1,2, turbo\nitrous etc..) and then dyno test them...
So start gettin your UNCLE SAM DOLLARS READY...
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woot sounds nice.
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indeed it does sound good
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I had a dream last night that the cams came out. I picked it up at crower and installed it in the parking lot. too bad it was a dream.
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Don't know if anyone really cares but I saw on their site that they are going to be offering a cam gear for our motors as well.
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Yes that is also already developed. Sorry to say but that is old news. but useful anyways
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Just another quick hint from crower's website....
a set of their connecting rods are $711.78
http://www.crower.com/cgi-bin/detail..._id=ML93740B-4
Anywho just some of the goodies coming our way......
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711.78? they already had rods for our car out and they cost less then that before
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the part number has the ML in front of it so it is there new light weight all motor rods. those are not the econo rods.
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The rods quoted ($711.78) on their site are the Maxi Light version (Good for all motor) and the rods that are cheaper are the 4340 Steel Billet version.
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how much for the cam, and do we have an actual release date yet?
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how much for the cam, and do we have an actual release date yet?
maybe in 2 months. i don't think the price has been set yet.
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Price wise I don't know, but the release date for the general public is gonna be early to middle of April.
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who would build an all motor d17?
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Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
who would build an all motor d17?
There are some applicaitons where an all motor build would be best suited over a boosted application. If you want a dyno queen or you are building your car for a venue where a boosted engine would be best--great--build a boosted engine...now mind you I am not saying this is bad idea...just not the bandwagon everyone wants to jump on.
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yeah But the parts for all motor seem to cost alot more and overall you'll be paying alot more to have alot less power. maybe 150whp built
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That is your hypothesis...For certain aspects of motorsports higher power is not the answer to everything...also I am willing to state that I am probably somewhere in the neighborhood of those whp numbers as I stand give or take 10+ hp. I will get a dyno as soon as I iron out some ecu gremlins.

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bump i would build a d17 a then turbo it
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Here is a quick comparison for all those doubting all motor:

1999 Integra GSR with Revhard turbo kit (very efficeint) on stock internals: 13.6 quart. and 255whp.

1999 Integra GSR with motor work done (all mota!) 205whp: 13.7 quart.

With turbo, the lag and the loss of multi gear traction, the speeds are equivilant.

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