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dont believe everything you read. I said proof on your car. There are alot of things advert. will do to screw with the dyno numbers. Just like Honda says a ex w/ 127hp. More like 127-20%=102hp in reality. You do all your mods and I bet the best you will get is up to the advert. 127hp. Start a new post and ask people who have dyno'd their cars how much hp I/E/H gave them. You will see the facts then.

 
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i hope your not that naive. because i will guaruntee you if you dyno your car completly stock and then dyno it with the V2 intake on it you Will NOT see a 12 horsepower gain. Afterall this V2 is made by the same company who had to repost their dyno results for their CAI.

Sport Compact Car Dynoed a
2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
Mods -
- Injen RD intake (P)
- DC Sports 4-2-1 creamic coated header
- DC Sports Twin Canister 2 cat-back exhaust

total WHP - 110

now i know that that car didn't have a V2 but if that car was unable to raise their HP with all 3 of those what makes you think you can get 12HP out of just an Intake?

Lets not forget that AEM then had to come out and fix their horribly inaccurate dyno results for the CAI. Their new more beliveable gain...2.2 HP.

 
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I just dont see why people argue about there bolt ons. I guess it is because they paid so much money they get a plasibo effect, kind of like a sugar pill. You think it works so you then feel it work, even though nothing changed.

I did say I gained torque.. Just no Hp.

Torque will get you out of the hole faster. But you have to force air in there to get some horse power.

 
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^^^ i agree with what your saying.
im not saying what im saying to start **** with them.
im merely trying to educate people. people learn from their own experience and other's experience (eg. guns)
also if they ever get in an argument they won't sound like an idiot.
or look like an idiot eg. at the track or the street when they get smoked by a faster car. and i can say nothing is more humbling then getting smoked by a sleeper.

 
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The TCS exhaust takes away HP. Anyway, who cares, Im not going to waste time arguing with people. Spend money on whatever you want and dont worry about how others spend it.

 
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I've heard that decades ago that engines were measured in gross hp, but today they are measured in net hp. Can anybody explain the difference?

 
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a lot of people underestimate the d17. ive seen dynos with guys that have intake, header, catbackexhaust, downpipe that push 125-130whp. if i can find them ill post them. you have to remember that all parts work together.

 
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Exactly my point they do all that work and money for what? Juat to reach the advertized horse power.

I dont see where it is worth at least a $1,000 plus install/labor for just 15-20hp.

Save that $1,000 or spend it on your custom turbo kit a few parts at a time. The exhaust is needed either way. But other than that I would spend the $1,000 on PnP heads from DH.

 
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That's what I'm doing. Ported head and pulley for 25+whp and all for around $1000. Don't buy into all that I/H/E crap no matter what people say. I've tried just the intake and lost power. Glad that's all I wasted my money on. It's all tricks.

 
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i seen in da HONDA TUNING mag that a cat has headers, exhaust, pulleys, and a 75 shot of NX gas and runs i 188whp, ON NX, but THAT IS WORTH DA MONEY....but then you gotta fill da NX up every damn time you race a couple people, but i still think its worth it

 
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i think nitrous is a worthwhile investment. I just don't see spending 200+ dollars on a intake that is going to yeild 2-3hp at Best! when you can put that 200 bucks towards your turbo fund, engine swap fund or nitrous fund.

 
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worrying about how you spend your money is probably the last thing on my mind. if you don't wanna listen then i really don't care. im merely trying to give you advice. because i speak from experience.
you can spend a **** load of money on your bolt ons for all i care just dont be b!tching and whining later on, talking about how you shoulda put that money towards a turbo kit. because you keep getting smoked.

 
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YEAH YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT, SO YOU THINK NX GAS IS A GOOD THING?

 
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Note: Proof comes in two forms:

1) Independent dyno testing, before and after, under the same atmospheric conditions. Dyno's on mfg's websites are B.S. Plain and simple.

2) Track slip showing your 1/4 mile time. This is the ULTIMATE test. If you can show a significantly improved time, ie: one higher than a stock Si, post it. Then indicate how much you spent on mods.

Doesn't make sense. Buy a K&N drop in filter. It's like what, 30 or 40 bucks. You won't lose torque like short rams, you might even gain 1 or 2 hp. Keep the other $960 for nitrous or start a turbo fund. Or, spend the money on parts that will significantly improve the performance of your car. Hayame coil-overs + RSX rear sway bar = huge improvement in handling, or so I hear.

I installed an AEM CAI and a Magnaflow catback in my car. At the track, I *maybe* gained 0.2 sseconds. Then again, I may have been having a good day. According to the mfg's of these products, I should have gained in excess of 20hp. 20hp gain would translate into a lot more than a 1/4 second.

I sold both and am happy with my ugly stock muffler and quiet, consistent stock airbox. Hayame's on the way, RSX-S sway bar waiting to be installed.

 
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960 for nitrous, DAMNM who you gettin ripped off by!

 
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i think it is a very good thing and worth the money if you plan on using it properly. theres been plenty of members here who have had success running nitrous, especially the NX kit. most of them have been in the 14's. you can also adjust the amount of nitrous according to how built your engine is.

example you can run up to a 75 shot on stock internals with no problems. as long as you maintain the car and the kit properly.
ie. check spark plugs, make sure your not running lean.

if you build the bottom end up, sleeve the block,get forged pistons, rings and then you have the head, ie. port and polish, get a upgraded throttle body.
you could run 100 shot easy. id keep an eye on the fuel system however, id upgrade it if i were to run more then 100 shot on a built block.

 
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not really it depends on how fancy you wanna get with your set up
the nitrous kit, then you have the purge kit, bottle warmer, remote bottle opener, etc. etc.

 
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true but i priced a NX kit with bottle warmer and all that stuff for around 750 and that with install

 
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kjracing was selling his kit for 450 it was in perfect condition and came with a purge kit, and digital nitrous pressure gauge. he would install it for 20 bucks extra if you picked it up instead of him having to ship it.
its all about what deal pops up at the oppurtune moment

 
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yeah thats a real good deal

 
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You gotta let the feisty bitch breath bro! or she'll be chokin... then make her wear some spandex and runnin shoes (ultra light rims, slick or racing tires), make damn thighs stronger (flywheel/clutch), and put her on a diet... then you have a bad *** biaaattccchhhh!

Bolt ons:
Injen Intake
Denso SP
DC Headers 4-1
Tsudo Catback System
Unorthodox Racing SS Pulley
ACT Prolite Flywheel
ACT Stage 2 Clutch
EarthCycle Ground Wires

Now I don't have the dough to get my ride dynoed... but ya'll can send some donations to koolmike79bid@yahoo.com and if I get enough to get a dyno tune, i'll post results ASAP and if I don't get atleast 160whp you'll get your money back!

 
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i got gains out of my i/e/h but the best bolt on you could do is go to d-h racing and have them make you an intake man.. ,,,,,im not saying all my hp came from that i also aded aem pullys a damper pully hyper ground took out my ac and cat, koyo rad aem fuel rail and reg and a v-afc,,, you can spray all the nos you want and beat me, but im gonna laugh my *** of a few years from now when your engin is fried cause you got to greedy with the botton

 
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well what about the RSX type S engine? Will that engine respond better to bolt ons? I'd rather do that and THEN build it up. Cause you guys are so right about the other bolt ons, they didn't do crap!

 
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the k20a2 motor reponds to bolt ons very well. dont waste money on bolt ons. save up for a swap or turbo! and damn this thread is old.

 
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what are they running for??? i want a turbo kit for my 04'...are they a good 2 g's??? i heard thier like 500 for just the turbo could that be true?


-PeTeY!! ::EM2::

 
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^^^ check out dezod.com. they gotta good turbo kit for our cars. you could always go custom turbo. cheaper then buying a new turbo kit....most of the time.