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Old Oct 29, 2003
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So what am i looking at to have my motor build to handle a turbo to gain around 450 at the wheels??? also what is a SF kit???
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and SF kit is the Stafford Fabrications Turbo kit. If you want one of those, im the man to talk to!
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can you guys make my car run 10's
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Between us and SF we can do anything you like. I am just telling you that 10's is not easy. The power will be there with a built motor, but you will need upgraded axles, engine management, roll cage, and suspension upgrades. You are looking at about 10k with all the mods.

It is going to be $1000 for forged pistons and eagle rods, $750 for a ported head, $550 custom intake manifold, $300 Flywheel, and Clutch, $3100 for the turbo kit. You might as well just send me the motor and have it built buy us, and sent out with the turbo kit. Would take around a month to have it back to you. $3500 for the turbo build, and $3100 for the kit. Let me know. Thanks again
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6600 doallars and I get all that cool, then how fast will I be...by the way sorry if I keep asking questions just want to know
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You will have the potential do make whatever power you want. Next will be on your to upgrade the necessary parts to make it more efficient as you add more power. Im here for questions, so keep em' coming.
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Hello DhRacingJosh
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Any estimates on HP or WHP increase on a cam regrind? I don't have the funds to go turbo or total rebuild my engine now, so this seems like the best bang for my dollar. Would it be fair to say a regrind would yeild a 10 - 15 HP increase with stock setup?

As well, any estimates on how long would the whole process takes?

I'm located in Canada, do you imagine there would be any difficulties encountered sending you a camshaft, or would it be better if you found one and did the regrind and then ship up here?

I'm sorry about all questions, but I've been tossing the idea of going "cam" for sometime now.

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You can expect around 10-15 at the wheels. Hard to say being the new motors seem to be more responsive to mods. If you package it up then there will be no problems, I thoroughly package ours.
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and you can do all this on a lx civic???
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Ok so the turbo kit is 3100 with install
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and you can do all this on a lx civic???
Sure I Can do anything you like with your motor. Doesnt matter if you got the Vtec or not.
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Originally posted by DhRacingJosh
You can expect around 10-15 at the wheels. Hard to say being the new motors seem to be more responsive to mods. If you package it up then there will be no problems, I thoroughly package ours.
Wow, quick reply!!! 10-15 at the wheels sounds good to me. Any estimate on how long it takes to do? If it was going to be along time, I'd probably see if I could get a cam from the wreckers and send that and wait patiently...
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Hopefully I can have it shipped to your door in less then a month from arrival. That's a drastic amount. Normally 3 days to the grinder, and two weeks back to me, then off to you.
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I have a 2001 ex I have an auto trans. I am wondering what I can do with this. I'd like to find out more on the cam regrind and anything else that I can do to my slow auto civic. any help would be appreciated
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with the reground cam, would I need to add stronger valve springs or should the stock ones be fine with the stock red line.
Also will there any price difference between a non vtec grind and a vtec grind?
One more thing... what kind of life should I expect from a reground cam?
And thanks for coming to the board and answering these questions, alot of good info so far.
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That sounds good to me! I'll keep you in mind in the very near future. I don't mind the month wait because last thing I'd want to do is to rush things. Thanks for your responses.
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The turbo kit is $3100 + install. We charge a $300 install if you bring your car to us.
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Ok, so say I want to go all motor. If i get the P&P job, regrinded cam, and rest of the valve train upgraded what kind of price and power would I expect to see? Can you give us examples from othe models you have done. I guess it would be best to go ahead and upgrade the IM and TB too. What kind of gains did past say D16s with Vtec get with all of that plus a CAI, header, and full exhaust?

Plus do you guys do any ECU work? I know it would help with uping the redline. After all the valve train work, would it be ok to have say a 8,000 rpm redline with a stock bottom end?
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Hey DHRacingJosh,

I really appreciate all the questions you've been answering. I've got a couple of questions, too.

How would the D17 react with upgraded pistons? I'm interested in buying your 10.8:1 pistons, and possibly a regrinded cam, but I want to know if modding the engine this way would be recommended for a start. It's all I can afford, and I can find someone to install the items, but I don't know if it's worth it.

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Originally posted by djmota
with the reground cam, would I need to add stronger valve springs or should the stock ones be fine with the stock red line.
Also will there any price difference between a non vtec grind and a vtec grind?
One more thing... what kind of life should I expect from a reground cam?
And thanks for coming to the board and answering these questions, alot of good info so far.
I can do about anything to the auto as the 5 speed. Stock springs will hold this cam just fine, and still produce power. Anything on the site I Can do for 5 speed, I can do for auto. If you want to do a manual conversion go for it, if not then I suggest a better torque converter
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Originally posted by Jodster
Ok, so say I want to go all motor. If i get the P&P job, regrinded cam, and rest of the valve train upgraded what kind of price and power would I expect to see? Can you give us examples from othe models you have done. I guess it would be best to go ahead and upgrade the IM and TB too. What kind of gains did past say D16s with Vtec get with all of that plus a CAI, header, and full exhaust?

Plus do you guys do any ECU work? I know it would help with uping the redline. After all the valve train work, would it be ok to have say a 8,000 rpm redline with a stock bottom end?
With the fully build 200 at the wheels is not out of site, we have done it. We dont do new gen ECU work here, but I know it's out there. 8000 would be fine, even 8500 with a built top end. You can expect to see no less then 160 at the wheels, more like 170-180. Let me know.
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Originally posted by CivicRookie
Hey DHRacingJosh,

I really appreciate all the questions you've been answering. I've got a couple of questions, too.

How would the D17 react with upgraded pistons? I'm interested in buying your 10.8:1 pistons, and possibly a regrinded cam, but I want to know if modding the engine this way would be recommended for a start. It's all I can afford, and I can find someone to install the items, but I don't know if it's worth it.

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Great Start. To get the bottom end out the way wouldn't be a bad idea. Then work on the top end. It wont hurt, and it will produce some good power. Let me know if I can be of any more help
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You say you can't actually work on the car, but is there anyone in Lancaster that can, my home is Santa Barbara so its like a 2 hour drive for me, but how much can be done and still have the car street legal, i mean all my parts on my car are carb l,egal and so forth, but it hasnt helped a lot , just wondering how much we can get with being street legal? thanks
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Originally posted by runner1738
You say you can't actually work on the car, but is there anyone in Lancaster that can, my home is Santa Barbara so its like a 2 hour drive for me, but how much can be done and still have the car street legal, i mean all my parts on my car are carb l,egal and so forth, but it hasnt helped a lot , just wondering how much we can get with being street legal? thanks
We can get most to pass smog being under the valve cover they cant see unless it reads out. If you work something out with SF we might be able to do an install there, but that's a maybe. Let me bring Mike into this.
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thanks, but it wouldnt be until this summer that i would something drastic to my car like this, but just curious thanks though for the fast response
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We can do installations here. Here is the price list for the installations...

$150 for intake manifold
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$300 for turbo system
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do i have to send in my motor to get a camshaft and valves/valve springs/valve retainers? I'm thinking about ordering those, having them made, then driving to California to have them installed. I live in Virginia, so it'll be a pretty big trip, and I really doubt whether I can go the month or so that you say I will be without my engine.
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