... before it even goes in the car?
My concern is, of course, that, I do not want to create a timing issue, whereas no timing issue exists on this engine. Unknown mileage, unknown history. All I know is that it runs, and I have no reason to suspect a bad engine. On the contrary: a 2000 D16Y8, out of a wrecked car.. must have been running pretty well. At $200, I'll take that bet. (All these details would have come out, in time, here, or on H-T.)
So. "Mess with the T-belt, while it's right in front of me?" Or, just throw it in there, bolt it up, do the wiring pin-out to my P28 not P2P ECU (or someone else do all these things.) Yea? Nea? Pros? Cons?
My concern is, of course, that, I do not want to create a timing issue, whereas no timing issue exists on this engine. Unknown mileage, unknown history. All I know is that it runs, and I have no reason to suspect a bad engine. On the contrary: a 2000 D16Y8, out of a wrecked car.. must have been running pretty well. At $200, I'll take that bet. (All these details would have come out, in time, here, or on H-T.)
So. "Mess with the T-belt, while it's right in front of me?" Or, just throw it in there, bolt it up, do the wiring pin-out to my P28 not P2P ECU (or someone else do all these things.) Yea? Nea? Pros? Cons?
A quick refresher: That D16Y8 is going into this car.. that originally came with the D16Z6. 1995. EX, auto trans. No point in referencing the basted engine that was never supposed to be in there from here on forward.
I can see why you'd hesitate beacuse you want to make sure it's running before spending money on a TB kit. Did you pull it from a salvage yard? or was it a Craigslist deal? If you got it from a salvage yard and they warranteed it then you could throw a TB kit on it before install, save the old parts, and if doesn't run right then remove new parts, replace with old and slap the new parts on the next engine. If it's a craigslist or other type of purchase that's not warranteed then you might be better off waiting to see how it runs.
Did you try manually cranking it over to make sure it's not seized?
Check oil and oil cap to inspect for coolant in oil (headgasket breach) or sludge?
As far as your comment "must have been running pretty well" ..my comment is "or not". You won't know until you know, you know?
Did you try manually cranking it over to make sure it's not seized?
Check oil and oil cap to inspect for coolant in oil (headgasket breach) or sludge?
As far as your comment "must have been running pretty well" ..my comment is "or not". You won't know until you know, you know?
Timing belt less than $30.....Gamble?
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But, shouldn't he do a complete TB kit with tensioner, waterpump, crank seal instead of just a TB?Originally Posted by ezone
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Bigger gamble.Originally Posted by turd_ferguson
But, shouldn't he do a complete TB kit with tensioner, waterpump, crank seal instead of just a TB? Does OP know mileage of the engine? If it's high miles then sure but again nobody knows how this swap will turn out yet.
Let's toss a head gasket in it for good measure?
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Glad you mentioned this.Originally Posted by turd_ferguson
But, shouldn't he do a complete TB kit with tensioner, waterpump, crank seal instead of just a TB? Old engine is coming out....
Allernator cane with this one.
My Water Pump WAS new, but, thinking getting a new one because of ungodlyness in old fluids..
TB? Do not want to CREATE timing issue.
Car came from salvaged. Bought on faith. Honestly, seems a low chance to me it's messed over.. My thinking: Dude was having "spirited driving" and either got hit, or wrecked. I assume from rear.
It's a gamble, yeah, but given up to this point......
Also. Although I am aware that visual appearance means nothing to the performance of an engine (Compression tests and "how it runs tell the story on that, if there is a problem or if it purrs like a kitten,) I did not feel "lied to" on this. Though I did not SEE donor car, this engine came from BODY SHOP of a Chevy dealer. To me, this says they got a car, wrecked somehow, that happened to be a Honda.. Realized engine would sell, unsure Transmission situation, I think it was available separate.. and they just wanted to get rid of it. I didn't get the feeling I was being lied to .
That said, here it is after two guys put it in the back of my Blazer, which is still going, even after some winter beat-up. Glory days are here again .
My visual inspection looked to me like an engine removed, with tools not torches, from a clean or clean-ish car. Was said Year 2000, and has D16Y8 stamp on it.
I'm back on H-T in 2 days.
Asking price was $250 or best offer.. offer of $200 was accepted, I do not low-ball. Though I been low-balled.
That said, here it is after two guys put it in the back of my Blazer, which is still going, even after some winter beat-up. Glory days are here again .
My visual inspection looked to me like an engine removed, with tools not torches, from a clean or clean-ish car. Was said Year 2000, and has D16Y8 stamp on it.
I'm back on H-T in 2 days.
Asking price was $250 or best offer.. offer of $200 was accepted, I do not low-ball. Though I been low-balled.
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Check the incoming engine at TDC; not only the timing belt and marks, but make sure that the cam is indicating TDC, as well as the #1 piston. I use a wooden dowel or a long screwdriver inserted into the spark plug hole to make sure of that.
If that all checks out, timing should be good. That said, changing the timing belt wouldn't be a bad idea with the engine out of the engine bay. It'd be easier to make sure nothing moves while putting everything on.
If that all checks out, timing should be good. That said, changing the timing belt wouldn't be a bad idea with the engine out of the engine bay. It'd be easier to make sure nothing moves while putting everything on.
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Does OP know mileage of the engine? If it's high miles then sure but again nobody knows how this swap will turn out yet.
Let's toss a head gasket in it for good measure?
Srs question: I have seen a yard run an engine with the engine being out of the car. How do I do that?Originally Posted by ezone
Bigger gamble.Does OP know mileage of the engine? If it's high miles then sure but again nobody knows how this swap will turn out yet.
Let's toss a head gasket in it for good measure?
I actually considered HG.. but then the engine is opened up, and we run the risk of "improper reassembly." This my exact fear with the timing of either upper or lower engine moving even ONE TOOTH.. Which is why I would leave it alone, or was inclined to..
I have a choice. Of a Honda enthusiast helping me, hands-on, do the swap and ECU pin-out, and a Honda technician (??) Doing same.. in a garage, for a little more.
Not sure how Honda Tech will react to my initiative to have the new engine. I thought that carried a lot of weight. But I'm doing it for the cat, not Honda Tech.. though they will know..
My manager at Advance Auto tells me that Changing the TB with the engine out of the car is 1. A definite, and 2. Very simple. Do you agree with him?
If you don't know how to deal with a cam or crank moving then maybe you shouldn't be doing it or the head gasket. You also need to be able to get the crank pulley bolt out and you had a ton of problems with the last one even with it in the car.
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st one even with it in the car.
Truth.Originally Posted by ezone
If you don't know how to deal with a cam or crank moving then maybe you shouldn't be doing it or the head gasket. You also need to be able to get the crank pulley bolt out and you had a ton of problems with the lakxjYst one even with it in the car.
These are the strongest evidences for the most likely course of action:
1. Remove old engine from car. I may rip head off, just to see the carnage. It's done.
2. Put new engine in car. Engineer the appropriate year differences. Maybe put thread to here, H-T tech for legit "how do you" inquiry.
3. Run the car. See what we got.
4. Go from there.
Based on what I know, it should then be an Easy Operator.
Why not a just install the correct engine? Much better chance for a decent outcome.
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Not sure why you are so caught up making How-to vids when it's pretty apparent most of the repairs you have done and are going to do are first time repairs for you. Maybe what you should concentrate on is following the FSM, work patiently, gain experience and then post How-to's when you have a thorough understanding,Originally Posted by Wild Cranker
Put new engine in car. Engineer the appropriate year differences. Maybe put thread to here, H-T tech for legit "how do you" inquiry. xRiCeBoYx
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I'm sorry, I know this is hella off topic, but every time I see "fsm," I think flying spaghetti monster.. lolOriginally Posted by turd_ferguson
...following the FSM... I'll... I'll show myself out
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That actually makes some sense, but if I did this, I would be just like everybody else.Originally Posted by turd_ferguson
Not sure why you are so caught up making How-to vids when it's pretty apparent most of the repairs you have done and are going to do are first time repairs for you. Maybe what you should concentrate on is following the FSM, work patiently, gain experience and then post How-to's when you have a thorough understanding, And that's not my steez yo, Mr. Ferguson. Though I appreciate ya.
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And that's not my steez yo, Mr. Ferguson. Though I appreciate ya.
What happens if a video/how-to you make turns out to be in conflict to the FSM and creates mistakes to follow instead of proper procedure?Originally Posted by Wild Cranker
That actually makes some sense, but if I did this, I would be just like everybody else.And that's not my steez yo, Mr. Ferguson. Though I appreciate ya.
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What happens if a video/how-to you make turns out to be in conflict to the FSM and creates mistakes to follow instead of proper procedure? You ever browsed YouTube my dude?
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Call the videosOriginally Posted by turd_ferguson
What happens if a video/how-to you make turns out to be in conflict to the FSM and creates mistakes to follow instead of proper procedure? How-Not-To
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DIY: Destroy It Yourself
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A few months ago I wached a few of the shitload you posted.. I don't see an Oscar in your future.Originally Posted by Wild Cranker
You ever browsed YouTube my dude? I admire your effort though
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How-Not-To
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DIY: Destroy It Yourself
Cheers for that..Originally Posted by ezone
Call the videosHow-Not-To
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DIY: Destroy It Yourself
I don't get dissuaded easily. Particularly by *******s.
Check meow right here
Watch "Maiden. Voyage. Y8. Hallelujah. Life.. after death.. Amen." on YouTube
Check meow right here
Watch "Maiden. Voyage. Y8. Hallelujah. Life.. after death.. Amen." on YouTube
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Watch "Maiden. Voyage. Y8. Hallelujah. Life.. after death.. Amen." on YouTube
Good job buddy.. your best video to date. Mostly, due to the Mazda RX3 parked in front of the garage you pulled out of. Please...just don't dump any unnecessary fluids in it. Also, who need directionals air vents anyway?..LOLOriginally Posted by Wild Cranker
I don't get dissuaded easily. Particularly by *******s.Check meow right here
Watch "Maiden. Voyage. Y8. Hallelujah. Life.. after death.. Amen." on YouTube
I was hoping your ride was going to to turn into a road rage incident but, sadly you let us down..LOL . BTW you are aware stock 1.6L are ball-less?
Good to see it's alive and burning fuel again!
I saw you roll it out of a normal looking shop area, what did that cost?
Why is the check engine light on?
Blazer, now it's a burned valve? What happened to head gasket or cracked head?
I saw you roll it out of a normal looking shop area, what did that cost?
Why is the check engine light on?
Blazer, now it's a burned valve? What happened to head gasket or cracked head?
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I saw you roll it out of a normal looking shop area, what did that cost?
Why is the check engine light on?
Blazer, now it's a burned valve? What happened to head gasket or cracked head?
We really are a bunch of ball-busting *******s..LolOriginally Posted by ezone
Good to see it's alive and burning fuel again! I saw you roll it out of a normal looking shop area, what did that cost?
Why is the check engine light on?
Blazer, now it's a burned valve? What happened to head gasket or cracked head?
