Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum If you've got a problem you just can't figure out, a noise you can't diagnose, or a Check Engine Light that won't go away, ask about it here!

D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-19-2014
  #1  
Registered!!
Thread Starter
 
leakyfaucet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
leakyfaucet is an unknown quantity at this point
D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on

Confirmed with a scan-gauge, my 2000 Civic runs about 195*F (which is how it should be) when the temperature **** is set to full cold. When I turn it to full hot, even with the fan off and recirculating the air, the coolant settles to about 177*F. I'm concerned that running this cold is affecting my mileage and will cause a tad more engine wear.

The thermostat was replaced about a year ago during a timing belt change. I know that when the temp **** is set to 'heat,' a valve opens allowing coolant to circulate through the heater core, but why does it make such a difference? Has anybody else noticed this issue?
Old 01-19-2014
  #2  
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
ezone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Posts: 32,019
Received 250 Likes on 182 Posts
Rep Power: 493
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on

Sounds average to me.
177 is well within reason.


SPECS:
Start to open 169-176
Fully open 194

Cooling fan ON 196-203
Cooling fan OFF 5-15 below actual ON temp
Old 01-19-2014
  #3  
....
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
 
Stock 99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,582
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Rep Power: 179
Stock 99 is a glorious beacon of lightStock 99 is a glorious beacon of lightStock 99 is a glorious beacon of lightStock 99 is a glorious beacon of lightStock 99 is a glorious beacon of lightStock 99 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on

I had to do some work to my cooling system last fall and thought things seemed not right but everything has been totally fine. My coolant reaches about 176f and regulates to that temp.

Some screenshots from my OBD II reader



Old 01-22-2014
  #4  
Registered!!
Thread Starter
 
leakyfaucet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
leakyfaucet is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on

I appreciate the responses guys, that's very helpful. Temps in the 170s does seem strangely low to me, as from what I recall of old automotive textbooks, the peak efficiency and minimum wear occurs right around 195*F.

I seem to remember something about engine wear at 180*F is about double the engine wear at 195* or something to that effect.
Old 01-22-2014
  #5  
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
ezone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Posts: 32,019
Received 250 Likes on 182 Posts
Rep Power: 493
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on

Originally Posted by leakyfaucet
I appreciate the responses guys, that's very helpful. Temps in the 170s does seem strangely low to me, as from what I recall of old automotive textbooks, the peak efficiency and minimum wear occurs right around 195*F.

I seem to remember something about engine wear at 180*F is about double the engine wear at 195* or something to that effect.
Yeah maybe.....but these cars are designed to be like this, and can go forever like this.
(Had a 98 or 99 Civic in the shop last week getting all the brake and fuel lines under the car.....397,xxx miles on it and rusting all to hell.)

Plenty of cars (manufacturers) only run 180 stats, even now in 2014..... and I'm still used to GM products that run 195 thermostats and didn't run the fan until 223 or higher. They could actually drop a couple MPGs with a 180 stat.


I'd personally prefer a higher stat rating in the cars too..... Might help heater complaints on days when it's below zero.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
blazebrown
Overheating or loss of coolant, heater blowing cold
18
06-02-2019 12:31 PM
Ninetyatecivic
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
6
05-09-2015 07:48 PM
Aznnp77
General Automotive Discussion
10
01-06-2002 08:41 PM
Hobby2K
Bolt-on Engine Performance
2
11-09-2001 04:08 PM



Quick Reply: D16Y7 runs too cold, but only with heat on



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:55 AM.