no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
hey guys i got unusual problem that i still haven't figured!
my car shut down while idling twice but was able to start right away then last few days it shut down while driving and had it towed to my usual mechanic. he was able to start it fine and couldn't find any problem. i let him to have my car for a day but it never happened to him.
then i decided to gamble with my car by replacing the main relay. it already has new timing belt, distributor, cap, rotor, and battery you name it. its still running great at 150K mileages, so i never want to give it up. after the main relay, it still shut down when idling and wont start again. i checked the sparks there was no sparks so it is definitely not fuel problem. i tried to diagnosis further for no sparks but in 10 minutes later, it starts again just fine no problem now. it is giving me trouble to try find where the problem is. i would gamble with replacing the parts to make it go away.
any idea of what the problem could be??? thanks guys
my car shut down while idling twice but was able to start right away then last few days it shut down while driving and had it towed to my usual mechanic. he was able to start it fine and couldn't find any problem. i let him to have my car for a day but it never happened to him.
then i decided to gamble with my car by replacing the main relay. it already has new timing belt, distributor, cap, rotor, and battery you name it. its still running great at 150K mileages, so i never want to give it up. after the main relay, it still shut down when idling and wont start again. i checked the sparks there was no sparks so it is definitely not fuel problem. i tried to diagnosis further for no sparks but in 10 minutes later, it starts again just fine no problem now. it is giving me trouble to try find where the problem is. i would gamble with replacing the parts to make it go away.
any idea of what the problem could be??? thanks guys
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Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
No spark...... I'd say igniter, they seem to like quitting when hot just before failing completely.
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Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
It's inside the distributor. #7 here
I should say to replace the ignition coil and spark plugs (if there is 30k or more on them) at the same time, cheap insurance.
I should say to replace the ignition coil and spark plugs (if there is 30k or more on them) at the same time, cheap insurance.
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Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
Was it a factory part? Was it complete?
Doesn't matter. If it's bad, it's bad.
Aftermarket remans are filled with cheap, low quality parts. Always a crapshoot.
Lifetime warranty? Replace it again some more.
Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
it was aftermarket yea i agree. thanks man i will replace that parts next weekend and see how it goes!
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Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
Since you say it is aftermarket, you ought to take a peep inside the dist. See if the contacts in the cap are clean or burned out, and do a dwell check on the primary side of the coil while cranking. See what else you need before going to the parts store.
I also mean check and see if I guessed right before just replacing it.
I also mean check and see if I guessed right before just replacing it.
Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
Since you say it is aftermarket, you ought to take a peep inside the dist. See if the contacts in the cap are clean or burned out, and do a dwell check on the primary side of the coil while cranking. See what else you need before going to the parts store.
I also mean check and see if I guessed right before just replacing it.
I also mean check and see if I guessed right before just replacing it.
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Re: no spark while not starting but come back in 5 to 15 mintues
Yeah, it is hard to condemn something that is working fine when checked.
Most people don't understand how tough an intermittent problem can be to chase down, especially if it happens randomly and infrequently.
Lots of stuff like this can only be accurately diagnosed WHILE the problem is present. It would be far easier to diagnose if it was completely dead.
Sometimes enough symptoms were noted to allow a somewhat accurate guess (no spark when hot). Of course that igniter isn't the only possible cause, but it is very likely to be.
HTH
Most people don't understand how tough an intermittent problem can be to chase down, especially if it happens randomly and infrequently.
Lots of stuff like this can only be accurately diagnosed WHILE the problem is present. It would be far easier to diagnose if it was completely dead.
Sometimes enough symptoms were noted to allow a somewhat accurate guess (no spark when hot). Of course that igniter isn't the only possible cause, but it is very likely to be.
HTH
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