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Old Oct 18, 2002
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need some wiring help

I Have 1 aria 15" and 2 10" jansons. I have 1 600watt 4 Channel amp and 1 Kicker 625 2 channel. All have built in crossovers. I also have 2 .5 moster caps. I have the 15" connected to the janson amp and bridged down to I think 2 ohms.

What I need to know is should I connect the 15" to the kicker since it is 2 channel and bridge that and then connect the 2 10's to the 4 channel janson. But my real question is how do I knock them all down to 1 ohm.

Diagram: w=wire
Janson
w1 w1
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This is the wire pattern for my current setup to the 15"

Copy and paste if you want to use this diagram

Janson
w1 w1
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Kicker

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This is what iI think for the janson amp and 2 10"
w1 w2 w1 w2 w1 w1
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or w2 w2 or ???????????????
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and for the 15" on the Kicker
w1 w1
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Here is a cleared diagram:


This is what iI think for the janson amp and 2 10"
w1 w2 w1 w2
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OR

w1 w1
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w2 w2
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and for the 15" on the Kicker
w1 w1
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But there is also wackey wiring!!!!!!! what to do?????????
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Dude, you confusing the hell outa me.

What we need to help you.

What models amps are you using.
What are the specs, and what are they stable at.
What model speakers are you using.
What are the spec, ohms, DVC or SVC, and such.

I can almost guarantee you though, since Jensen isn't that high quality when compared to Kicker ..... put the Kicker amp on the 15" Aria and the Jensen amp on the 10" Jensens.
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what is the schenmatic for dropping to an ohm, to sum up.
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Dude ..... answer the questions and we can help you out a ton ........
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This is what I have as detailed as I possibly can be since all that I own is hand-me downs from brother and friends.

Amps
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1 Jensen 600watt 4 channel (blue with rivited silver top) Thats all i know
1 Kicker impulse 625xi 2 Channel

Both bridgeable, both with built in crossovers

Speakers
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1 15" Aria most likely 1500 watts dual ribbed cone/ as durable as a PPI (said to be bullet proof)
2 10" jensen with the hand print on the cone. Most likely peak 500watts

I don't neccessarily care if they will last or blow. I am sure the 15" will withstand 1 ohm just fine. I am a lil concerned for the kicker amp though. Before I had a Rockford fosgate Cheater amp, but I blew it during installation

Jensons, I don't care if I blow by dropping ohms. I am going to replace them one day any way. I got the whole Jensen setup for 100 bucks.

So in conclusion I need a schematic to hook these 3 speakers up to 2 amps at 1 ohm.

If this doesn't help, screw it, i will just go to circuit city! dude there knows everything but he isn't free

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Going too low on ohms will fry the amp not the speakers. Although it is possible when the amp fries that it overloads the speaker and toasts that too .....

Speakers are one resistance and thats it.

The way you wire it changes what the amp "sees" the resistance at.

0 ohms is a dead short .... in other words touching the + & - together. This is why so many amps are not stable below 2 ohms.

Yes, generally the lower the resistance the more power the amp will produce ..... till it cooks itself. Reminds me of overclocking a computer. Same idea. You can keep increasing the voltage and speed up the processor till it finally cooks itself. Then you got nothing.

If the 15" is dual voice coil, I would just hook the left up to one coil, and the right up to the other coil.

Bridge the Jenson to 2 channels and then have one bridged channel to one 10".
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Well, what you do to get the full power of an amp is wire the subs correctly to creat the correct OHM load.

For example, if you have a single 4 ohm voice coil sub, you're stuck at 4 ohms, if you have two 4 ohm single voice coil subwoofers, you can connect them in parallel (positive to positive, negative to negative) for a 2 OHM load or in series (positive to negative, positive/negative of each sub to the amp) for an 8 ohm load.


I'm assuming the jensen amp is this: http://defiantequipment.safeshopper.com/66/351.htm?81

It's listed as:

Peak Power Per Channel @ 4 Ohm: 150

RMS Power Per Channel @ 4 Ohm: 75

Peak Power Per Channel @ 2 Ohm: 200

RMS Power Per Channel @ 2 Ohm: 100

Peak Power Bridged @ 4 Ohm: 400x2

RMS Power Bridged @ 4 Ohm: 200x2




Is this the sub? http://cardiscountstereos.com/Catalo...uct+%23=XS1010


The page doens't say the OHMs, but i'm going to assume they are Single Voice coil 4 ohms (mostly standard)


for the Jensens, you'll want to bridge two pairs of outputs on the 4 channel amp to make it 2x200 @ 4 ohms RMS.

that covers the Jensen amp ans subs..



then, for the "Aria" I could n't find anythign about it, and the kicker amp, i'm assuming the 652xi (couldn't find anythign about a 625xi). It says the 652 is 190 watts x 1 @ 4 ohms, and i'll assume the Aria sub is 4 ohms SVC, al you have to do is bridge the kicker amp and hook it up.

btw, i remember that using two different size subs is bad.. something about being out of phase or noise cancellation, don't really know.. the other car audio pros should know better.

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thanks for the info. However the jensen amps and woofer are different but most likely the same. And for the theory on 2 different sized speakers... It makes perfect sense, why didn't i think of that . its a simple equation of air flow per surface. A 15" pushes more air then 10"s, hence cancelling the 10"s out.

Looks like I may just sell the speakers I got and the kicker amp and hook 3 12"s up to the Jensen.

Thanks for all the info every one!!!!!!!!!!!

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3 subs to a 4 way would be difficult. I'd sell it all and get a nice class sub amp and a good pair of 12s. the jensen amp isn't really that good i don't believe and the 600 watts is max too
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