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Old Mar 12, 2006
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Looking for louder than what i got

alright, i want to get as loud as possible in my civic. my current set-up is 3 12" alpine type r's in 2.25 cubes a piece tuned to 33hz. for power i have a orion 2500d. So the r's have about 850 rms to each sub. i want to get high 140's or even break a 150 on the new termlab meter. i know it is not easy to break a 150 but i want to. i am looking for new subs or a single sub to run at 1 ohm or 0.5 ohms on my 2500d. i have 1/0 power and 1/0 big three, and will possibly get a new alt. if the member on here gets the small block chevy alt kits done. let me know your thoughts on this.


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Get some Kicker L7's.. I have 2 12" L7's with a HUGE *** ported box and that **** thumps, I have 2 1200 Kicker Mono Black Class d amps pushin them
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How big is your box and what is it tuned to?
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hitting 150 in a daily driver tuned system on a new TL meter, will not be either cheap or easy

hitting 150 in an spl tuned system that would sound like *** playing music, is a different story

so I have a few questions I would like answered:

1 - daily driver music system, or pure spl one note competition system
2 - any budget constraints?
3 - coupe or sedan?
4 - how far are you willing to go install-wise (i.e. walls, removing rear seats, etc...
5 - who's doing the install, and how much experience do they have

the reason I ask, is because 150 is not easily done, regardless of how often you see it published on paper.
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If you want to push it @ 1 ohm, make sure your amp is 1 ohm stable. At lot of amps claim to be but most of them are bullshit. So double check before you wire subs to 1 ohm.
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1.daily driver, tuned low
2.~400 for subs, have everything else, used equipment is fine
3.sedan
4.thinking of sealing trunk from cabin and have port/subs behind seats.keeping the 2500d.
5.me and a friend, pretty good experience, won local sound off 1st and 2nd place last year. experienced in box building.

ideas so far are sealing the trunk off with either 2 12" or 2 15" orion h2's at 0.5ohm tuned b/w 33-35hz with 3 4" aeroports or 1 6" aeroport.

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If you want to push it @ 1 ohm, make sure your amp is 1 ohm stable. At lot of amps claim to be but most of them are bullshit. So double check before you wire subs to 1 ohm.
believe me this amp can do it, i will be running it at 0.5 ohms

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they don't make a 15" solo x, and i don't want a solo x
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yes they do ive seen them
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you have seena 15" solo x, find me a website with a 15" solo x

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yes they do ive seen them
you didn't find one did you?

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kicker makes an 18 inch kicker solo X. 2 would probably brake 150.
link to some on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-18-Inch-Kicker...QQcmdZViewItem

only thing is getting them in your vic! lol
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tuned in the low 30's, i doubt youll hit 150's.
just being brutally honest
now, if you still wanna do a pair of h2 15's in a quasi-wall, what you could do is have interchangable ports to have it tuned low for daily, or high for competing.
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Originally Posted by frenum101
yes they do ive seen them
http://www.kicker.com/06/index-dom-high.html
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why not try buiding an ABC box.. (a box with basically two ports) or use lots of sound deadening and whatnot.
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Originally Posted by LudlamTheory
tuned in the low 30's, i doubt youll hit 150's.
just being brutally honest
now, if you still wanna do a pair of h2 15's in a quasi-wall, what you could do is have interchangable ports to have it tuned low for daily, or high for competing.
I was looking at h2 15's b/c of their small enclosure requirement. What is a "quasi-wall"?. Do you think sealing th trunk from the cabin would be a good idea to gain spl or not? Orion recommends 2.25cf per sub, so i was thinking of sealing the trunk off and porting into the cabin, enclosure would be b/w 2.25-3 cubic feet per sub and 3 or 4 4" aeroports. i would get two dual 2 15" h2's to run at 0.5ohm for ~3000rms after electrical upgrades

also with these aeroports i would be able to change tuning pretty easy

and this set-up tuned high,is possibly a 150?

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first off, your trunk including everything is 10+ cubic feet easily.

a couple guys have tried sealing off the trunk and cabin from each other for spl and haven't done too well.

is that 2.25 per sub sealed or ported?

also, whoever reccomended the dual-chamber tri-tuned enclosure has an idea that might work IF you want to get into building a more complex box design that requires a lot of exact measurements.
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My idea was not to actually use the trunk as the enclosure but to build a box that fires into the cabin behind the rear seats with the trunk completly sealed from the face of the box. Orion recommends 2.25 ported, And that is about all i can do b/c each sub displaces .48 cf and the port displacement will be around .5-.75 cf. DO you think the aeroports would make a significant diff, over a regular slot port?

my 2500d is on the way now, and i am pretty set on the two h2 15's for my subs. Mainly because of the small space requirments

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well, that may work.
but like i said, a dctt enclosure could be exactly what youre looking for.

if you don't know what it is, it is in essence a ported box tuned at two frequencies, one low, one high.

if you're interested, I can help you design one here
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Originally Posted by LudlamTheory
well, that may work.
but like i said, a dctt enclosure could be exactly what youre looking for.

if you don't know what it is, it is in essence a ported box tuned at two frequencies, one low, one high.

if you're interested, I can help you design one here
Kinda like a p4s snailshell? I built one for a xxx 15" , if you have seen one they have three diff. width ports. How much room would this dctt enclosure take? I am willing to try anything. I was doing 36x16x30 with the box facing foward, right now the combination of the three boxes i have is 39x16x30
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man, 36 x 16 x 30 is 10 cubic feet...

you could do a hell of a lot of damage with 10 cubic feet available.

a dctt requires the same amount of room as a regular ported box.

if you will give me an evening to find my notes, i will give you exact formulas and such, but basically
two chambers, one is 2/3 of the box, one is 1/3
3 identical ports, slot or pvc are easiest, one from chamber one to front face of box, one from chamber one to chamber two, and one from chamber two to front face of box.
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