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Old Jul 30, 2003
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Update on VAFC II

Talked to APEXi today about the VAFCII, it will be released in the new black covering and it has not been tested with the 7thgen D17 block, it will however enter R&D next month to see if it will function wth our cars.
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Okay so I have done a few searches and read a lot of the posts, but I am still a little unsure of how the VAFCII works and more specifically what it does. Could I get a little bit of help?
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you'd think they'd R&D a product BEFORE they release it
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Okay so I have done a few searches and read a lot of the posts, but I am still a little unsure of how the VAFCII works and more specifically what it does. Could I get a little bit of help?
it allows you to adjust the fuel and air ratios which is good once you have a lot of bolt ons and other modifications because your flowing more air but the OEM ECU will only be able to auto adjust so much. Allow more air and fuel in will allow better performance. It also allows you to adjust the VTEC engagement point. Thats the fun one

Ohmysac --they R&Ded product but mainly on the other Hondas and not on the D17, since our VTEC is different from last gens and different from the Kseries they didnt really worry about R&D with our block as much since we are the low end of the spectrum as far as performace.
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im gonna set my vtec engagement on at like 1000 RPM
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LMAO good luck with that R3D
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im gonna set my vtec engagement on at like 1000 RPM
lol, oh ****, you can always get someone to bust out laughing...

just think, when your car is cold, it warms up at 1000rpm..

you'll be hitting VTEC @ IDLE!!!!

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Originally posted by NeonImpact
lol, oh ****, you can always get someone to bust out laughing...
and thats why we all love our 7thgen smart a$$
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My Vtec is currently kicking in at 2500rpm w/o vafc or vafcII is this normal for everyone else or what?
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if you program you vtec to kick in at 1000rpm, ha ha you'll be filling up sooo much because hittin vtec is gonna suk your gas down real fast
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if you hit vtec at 1k, you wont feel anything, its fun to set it at 4500 and when you reach 4500, you feel the 'kick from the vtec, you wont feel anything at 1k
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does anyone else own a 02 Si(ex US) and know when there vtec is supposed to engage b/c I just installed a vtec indicator light in my buddys 99 SiR and his engages at 5500 give or take 100rpm and mine is kickin at 2500 with out any kind of piggyback ECU installed whatsoever is this normal?
(p.s. anyone with 6th gen civic your vtec wire is Blk w/blue stripe
vtec equipped vehicles only obviously)
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lol they told me the d17 was being tested on the VAFC like a year ago when i was still waiting for them to fix it for our cars (engine light probs), just ended up taking things into my own hands and fixed it. Never trust the apexi guys when they say the 7thgencivic is in R&D cause they got other things in mind like the RSX.

I know, sad but true.
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Umm guys....It's been out for about 2 weeks in black.....I already sold a few....waiting for next shipment to come in.....sometime late next week
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Originally posted by djlutchi
Umm guys....It's been out for about 2 weeks in black.....I already sold a few....waiting for next shipment to come in.....sometime late next week
make us a good deal then
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u got it....lemme get em in stock again & I'll let u guys know!
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Originally posted by X-R8ED
does anyone else own a 02 Si(ex US) and know when there vtec is supposed to engage b/c I just installed a vtec indicator light in my buddys 99 SiR and his engages at 5500 give or take 100rpm and mine is kickin at 2500 with out any kind of piggyback ECU installed whatsoever is this normal?
(p.s. anyone with 6th gen civic your vtec wire is Blk w/blue stripe
vtec equipped vehicles only obviously)
that is the normal engagement point for an I-VTEC engine
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That really sucks that they didnt work on it for our engine. Although, im sure they were aware that the gains would be minimal and thus most people would not purchase it for the D series.
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Originally posted by curbsquirrel
that is the normal engagement point for an I-VTEC engine
He said he had an Canadian Si which is the U.S. EX. That means NO I-VTEC, he has the same VTEC as a EX.

I have no idea why though you are getting the light to come on that soon.
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Originally posted by GideoN
He said he had an Canadian Si which is the U.S. EX. That means NO I-VTEC, he has the same VTEC as a EX.

I have no idea why though you are getting the light to come on that soon.
If you have a D17EX/Si and a VTEC indicator LED tell me please what rpm is the light coming on? (if you dont have this but know someone who does could you ask them and post a reply thanks)
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The light coming on @ around 2200-3000RPM is normal for our engines....It all depends on how fast/hard you press the accelerator. There are many threads about the vtec indicator light, try searching for them for more detailed info on this subject..
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I pm'd tornactive about a deal on a vafc II, to someone who would be a pioneer and get one....He never responded
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Im waiting for the black one to come out then ill get it
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so then why would we want a V-AFC/II why not go with the S-AFC/II
I was told it was a much better unit?
anyone know if this was wrong or right info?
(looking for info from engine/electronics experts)
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SAFC is the same as the VAFC, except the VAFC can control VTEC engagement in addition to points and fuel curves. You have a VTEC engine, why not get a VAFC.

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any news on R&D or GB?
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