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Is this the Upstream sensor?

Bosch 13007 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...6529&x=12&y=21

 
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Not sure if it will work but it definitely is NOT the correct Bosch part number for your car for either the primary or secondary O2 sensor.

 
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bosch oe type is same brand as oem inside (NTK), but be sure about part number.

 
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I picked this one up for the front bank -

Bosch 13371 Oxygen Sensor

 
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Good, that is the proper part number for your car.

 
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Small issue now. I installed the new 02, and now, normally after the first few minutes following a start up, there will be some lag/stumbling in acceleration around 3K RPMs in 1st and 2nd gears... Sensor installed cleanly and didn't get damaged at all so I am stumped. Anyone else ever see this problem?

 
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Where do you live? Do you live in a cold climate? If so, pick up some IsoHeat (or other brand), fuel system water remover and pour it into the gas tank. I've had that once in the past 14 years of owning my coupe and it was just moisture in the tank from some crazy temperature swings we were having where I used to live. We had dropped 60 degrees F in 7 hours and a few other drastic swings all within a week (welcome to the upper plains). After putting the water system drier in the tank it went away almost instantaneously.

Now that I think about it, it happened most noticeably at a steady speed. Hmmm. Wonder if Gearbox has any ideas?

 
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I am down here in Texas outside of San Antonio. Our temps have been somewhat stable lately... I Ran a code check and all I got was an IAT sensor code, bought a new sensor and all seemed well after install. Then the issue returned, but only shortly. The problem began the day after the 02 sensor install. But, the car ran fine during the test drive after the 02 install. .. so I am stumped. The problem doesn't cause any rough/irregular idle or stalling, just some stumbling upon normal acceleration, usually in 1st and second gear. between 1.5-3K RPMs.. It isn't an all the time issue .. just usually after the first crank up from sitting... It's simply like the car loses fuel for a few seconds, then regains it. I purchased some sea foam for fuel systems thats supposed to help remove moisture as well.. will dump it in when I fill up again... see if that helps any...

 
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Yes, Seafoam will help if you have moisture or some old gas. If not, when was the last time you replaced the spark plugs, distributor cap and rotor? What brand of plugs are you running?

 
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Did the plugs about 3 months ago, running NGK Iridium IX's, and the engine ran smooth after install. I have yet to do the cap and rotor though. Thinking about doing that today... about to go fill up and sea foam it here in a bit though.

Question on the Cap and rotor.. What would be a good OE stand-in or brand, and where would the best place to be to get one? (like online perhaps) There are several auto-zones and such around here.. But i seem to play hell trying to find a decent part from them at times...

 
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I know Advanced can get in premium caps/rotors (brass inserts instead of aluminum) overnight. There standard ones seem to be ok as well but for a few dollars more you can get the better ones. Otherwise stop at a local dealer (probably the best quality you'll find). The premium paid to a dealer shouldn't be THAT great for a cap/rotor.

If you are buying more than just the cap/rotor you can certainly try: www.hondaautomotiveparts.com / www.hondapartsdeals.com / www.hondapartsunlimited.com The first two I've used extensively in the past with great success. Just keep in mind that shipping/handling will negate any savings unless you spend quite a lot.

 
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those are nice, i think bluestreak is the brand with better terminals.

 
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I will look into those. Today I may change out the fuel filter to see if by chance that may be the cause of the issue... The seafoam treatment hasn't cure it..

 
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I didn't get the chance to pick up a fuel filter.. been a busy day. But, I was wondering, what is the average mileage out of a full tank of gas for a 1.6 coupe? D16Y8 engine... My mileage seems to be taking a dump again... About a little Below half a tank netted me 173 miles =/ Doesn't seem well at all .....

 
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173 miles... gosh compared to mine that's amazing. My mileage suddenly dropped from 26 to 16ish. I'm lucky to get 190 on a full tank.

 
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Well, installed new fuel filter plus cap and rotor (there was some medium carbon build up and cap was a bit toasty on the contact). Major hesitation seems to be gone, but there is still some tiny dead spots in the lower RPM band, still a clean idle though... I am going to replace the wires next, prob today or Monday. Been Waaaay too busy with a move and all.. Fuel mileage seems to be pretty good again. Filled it up, and got 75 miles on the clock so far and just barely starting to drop below the Full mark.... And that was with some minor flooring today..

 
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whenever you do a big tuneup, wait at least one tank of gas for the ecu to learn the new conditions and adjust itself. the minor issues may clear up over time on their own.

 
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Or do the idle re-learn procedure and that should take care of it also. Here it is:

Idle Learning Procedure
On Hondas with OBD II, you can reduce current draw
during transportation or storage by removing the
memory backup fuse. Then when you reinstall the
fuse, run the engine for about 10 minutes after it
reaches normal operating temperature. This allows
time for the ECM/PCM to learn the proper IAC (idle
air control) values.
You also need to do this idle learning procedure
whenever you disconnect the battery or remove the
ECM/PCM.

 
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Just something that has been on my mind .. what are my chances I received a faulty O2? I made a run earlier this morning and it hesitated again .. not bad, but def noticeable. And it Only does this until the car warms up, and it's always between 2.5K to 3.5K RPMs or so, and usually it is just the first run through the gears, after that, it is smooth.. Wouldn't a faulty O2 behave this way if the heater element isn't functioning properly? All of this began the next day after I installed the sensor (installed it the evening prior) I checked the wire harness and wires, all looks good and clean, no kinks or tears... I am still going to do the ignition wires and all .. Just wondering more and more about that O2... I guess if it still continues after the wires, I will look into getting another sensor =/ That and perhaps a new coil....

 
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i got on the same engine D16Y8 (OO) 205 max...changed spark pkugs (NGK) wires, cap/ rotor/ fuel filter, O2 sensors, pcv, air filter, and mufler. I do have cel on is the cat. Is that my problem..? don't kmow what else to do. Any sugestions I appreciated thxs.

 
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i got on the same engine D16Y8 (OO) 205 max...changed spark pkugs (NGK) wires, cap/ rotor/ fuel filter, O2 sensors, pcv, air filter, and mufler. I do have cel on is the cat. Is that my problem..? don't kmow what else to do. Any sugestions I appreciated thxs.

 
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Well, did wires today, already burned through a tank of fuel, still a no go as the hesitation was bad today (again, only through the first run of gears after starting the car, then it clears up and runs fine)... Ordered a new O2 for the upstream.. will try that again and will report back. I hope that's the issue (faulty O2), as I am running out of ideas. And since it coincidentally started with the install of a new O2, figured I would bank on it being a faulty one. I am going to clear the ECM/PCM memory tonight though for kicks and see if that does anything by chance before I pick up and install the once again. new O2... I didn't clear it the 1st time as I didn't think it would need that for an oxygen sensor install ...... live and learn if it works by chance I guess =/

 
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Well, some possible good news. IF IT HOLDS OUT .. installed new Oxygen sensor, car runs stronger and smooooth through the gears. No surge/hesitation in acceleration at all... hope it stays that way. Even the throttle sounds alot better...


EDIT: Went on a drive again a few hours after the post above this sentence. Still runs perfect.

 
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Another day, another tank burned (I drive alot). Still Runs Perfect. And mileage has improved. So all is well ... for now.

 
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Glad to hear it. They are very sensitive sensors and I can imagine physical damage could happen quite easily whilst in transport before install. Have you seen how things are handled during transport? Quite amazing there aren't higher failure rates IMO.

 
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As one who orders alot of different things online (mainly photography gear from B&H) I def' see the abuse on some of the boxes. I have received boxes with good sized tears in them ... The sensor I ordered was loosely packed in it's carton so I should have known what to expect as far as possible damage goes...

 
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B&H and Adorama are great . Yes, UPS is a great destroyer of packages. I have tons of stories about them over the years, but I digress. Just glad you got your car back!

 
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Sure enough, still running smooooth. Now I can continue my normal routine without the stress and second guessing of what was going on.

And yea, Adorama runs some good deals.. better prices at times than B&H, and Customer service is pretty good.