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2004 Civic DX E Test

Hello, my daughter is the proud owner of a 2004 civic DX with an ongoing P1457 code. The car has been looked at by several independent garages as well as the dealer and the code still persists. All visits to the repair shop are always prior to her etest in the hopes of getting a pass. She has always got a pass following a $200 to $300 repair bill only to have the light come on shortly after leaving the shop. Her etest is required in March and I was looking for advice knowing the etesting requirement is cancelled in April. I have read vehicles that are 2001 and newer are allowed to have the evap monitor unset so long as this is the only monitor unset? Is this correct. Can she erase her codes and turn off her mil light and get an etest prior to the evap monitor setting a code? As for her repairs she has had most if not all parts associated with the evap system replaced, as well as an O2 sensor by the dealer. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

Where do you live?
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

The car will be e tested in Lindsay Ontario

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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

Ok I live in Ontario as well so it will pass with one monitor not ready.
Do you have a scanner? If not you should get one, you can get a Bluetooth one on Amazon that works with your phone for like $20. That way you can watch the monitor status.
Clear the codes and start driving, check the monitors every 10 mins, once there's two not ready (evap and something else) check more frequently, once you only have the evap not ready, go get it tested ASAP and it should pass. I've done this with a few different cars.

It's probably leaking at the solenoid on the canister near the gas tank, if you hit it with soapy water you will probably see it bubble
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

Thanks for the help Colin, I just learned that the evap monitor won't run if the tank is more than 85% full or less than 15% full. We will watch the monitors as well as keep the tank full. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

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if you hit it with soapy water you will probably see it bubble
The EVAP system is tested using engine vacuum.

Would there ever be enough pressure in the system to show soap bubbles on a leaking solenoid? (maybe parking in a heated garage or something?)
When I took that one picture I had the canister assembly off of the car and had shop air plumbed into the unit at regulated 1 PSI
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

Your comments are confusing, she has had multiple repair shops look at the car and has paid multiple times for this issue, but it still keeps popping up and she is not going back due to faulty repair?

Given your in Canada so who knows how much rust is under there, but still it’s pretty well documented error code that is traceable with shop tools.
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

That's about it slumper, she has returned to the dealer who told her they will look at the code, if it is not the same code it will be 90$, then we will add the repair costs.
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

That’s actually pretty standard practice around here too, especially from a dealer.

Thats one of the few parts I would not recommend trying to self pull in a wrecking yard as it’s pretty inaccessible without your whole body under the car and that’s almost never safe in the dirt.

I would look at buying a whole assembly from a junkyard that would pull it for you and find a muffler shop that for a change of their daily routinecould swap out the parts for less than a dealer diagnostic fee,

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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

Originally Posted by ezone
The EVAP system is tested using engine vacuum.

Would there ever be enough pressure in the system to show soap bubbles on a leaking solenoid? (maybe parking in a heated garage or something?)
When I took that one picture I had the canister assembly off of the car and had shop air plumbed into the unit at regulated 1 PSI
Right my mistake
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

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had shop air plumbed into the unit at regulated 1 PSI
Nice to know there is a better method than putting my lips around the hose and blowing..
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

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Nice to know there is a better method than putting my lips around the hose and blowing..
But your way is portable, quick and effective, and doesn't require a compressor
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Re: 2004 Civic DX E Test

I don't know if this will work for that exact code. But some evap codes are caused by a leaking gas cap/loose gas cap.
 
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