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Hey my 2003 civic ex manual isn't starting. It was working fine last night but i tried turning it on this afternoon and nothing.

The lights come on but when you push the clutch and turn the key nothing happens, it's the same as if you turn the key without having the clutch engaged.

I bought the car about 2 months ago and it had a bad clutch so i knew it was dying, i was told to drive it till it was dead so i did. Do u think this is a clutch problem or something else? Any ideas?
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

If it was the clutch the only thing that would prevent the car from starting is if you werent making the clutch switch at the pedal. It's essentially not seeing that you have the clutch down. I don't think it's clutch related but you can check that switch. Probably a battery or a starter.
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

I don't know how to check switches, sorry if that makes me sound really stupid i've just never had to do it before.

I don't think it's battery because the radio and stuff still comes on, but i tried to boost it anyways and nothing happened. As for the starter how much would it be to replace?

Is there anything i can do to help u guys figure out what this might be? Because i need to get to work tomorrow morning at 7 and this is my only way there ...
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Load test the battery ... Usually if it's the starter you will get some kind of noise though ... hmm... it isn't even cranking? Is the Immobilizer coming on the dash when you turn the key? I'm still leaning towards battery. If you have a second car in the family take it out and swap it into the civic and see if it starts. Ratings dont matte for one start, as long as you can hook it up. You have to rule the battery out before you do anything else.
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Oh yes I forgot to add even with a dead battery, it might have enough power to turn the lights on but not enough to crank the engine... That's why you still have to properly rule it out.
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

i still think the clutch sensor - they need to be moved when adjusting the pedal after clutch change
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Ooo we will see Not often you see clutch sensors malfunction... buuut they do.
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

not a malfunction, maybe too far from the pedal or loose support
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Ill reply to these one at a time lol

Originally Posted by tbohar
Load test the battery ... Usually if it's the starter you will get some kind of noise though ... hmm... it isn't even cranking? Is the Immobilizer coming on the dash when you turn the key? I'm still leaning towards battery. If you have a second car in the family take it out and swap it into the civic and see if it starts. Ratings dont matte for one start, as long as you can hook it up. You have to rule the battery out before you do anything else.
Nopeno cranking ... There's no sound at all being made when you try to turn it on. Like i said, it's the same as trying to turn on the car without pushing the clutch in... you get nothing :P

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Oh yes I forgot to add even with a dead battery, it might have enough power to turn the lights on but not enough to crank the engine... That's why you still have to properly rule it out.
I don't think it's the battery but i won't rule it out as a possibility so i'll see ifi can get another battery andtest that tomorrow after work.

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i still think the clutch sensor - they need to be moved when adjusting the pedal after clutch change
I haven't changed the clutch yet but i'm going to within a month. It might still need to be adjusted or something, i was driving it fine last night. I have no idea what might have caused to shift.

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not a malfunction, maybe too far from the pedal or loose support
How would i fix that??
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Your clutch being toast would not prevent the car to starting. The clutch sensor would.
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Yeah i know that, how do i check? Like i said before i've never had to look at sensors before so i don't know what to do :P
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

The switch should be right above the clutch pedal. The pedal should come in contact with it to make the car start.
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

sorry, i was off-line.
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^oooo nice.. my bet is it's still the battery
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Ill wait ill my dad gets home from work and after we vote (yea, its that day in canada) we'll try to change battery. I'll let u guys know how it goes this evening :P
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

So my dad towed the car to a garage yesterday morning ... and my uncle inspected it and found out the cpu was defected. So they were either going to buy a new one for $800 or a used one for $250. They ended up taking the $250, and my dad paid for it and i owe him the money. So without telling me my dad spend $250 of my dollars lol. But oh well the car is running really nice now Next up is my clutch which is almost dead
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Holy crap talk about worst case scenerio.. sorry man I never would have though... Good job finding an ECU for 250!!
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

I hate computers. They are great, but always fail/PITA when you need them most!
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Yeah i'll say it was worst case lol. I definitely didn't expect it. And repairs cost a lot more than i was hoping lol
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

ouchie... not common, that...
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ouchie... not common, that...
Is it highly uncommon? Because i'm having bad luck with this car
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You here the odd case on here every once in a while but definitely not common.
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Re: Urgent: Car won't start

Yea, every single car is different. You could and a friend could buy the same car at the same time brand new from the dealer and a week later yours might have a problem(like computer, transmission failure, something ridiculously uncommon) while his doesn't. It's really just a matter of luck at that point :P
 
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