Not-So-Cold A/C
Thread Starter
Diamond Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 1
From: MD
Rep Power: 0 




Not-So-Cold A/C
My A/C is "cool" but not cold. I want it to be cold. I bought a recharger can, but the condenser is already "full." Is there a wayyy to purge the old refrigerant?
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 811 










Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
nope, you cannot use those cans at the store. our system is way over 100psi and you will mess something up trying to fill it. you gotta take it to authorized HONDA shop (prolly dealer only) and have them hook the machine up to both hi and lo pressure ports, then drain it completely, measure how much was removed, then add new oil and refrigerent. adding the wrong oil will destroy the compressor. youve been warned.
before you do anything, drive it at 65mph for 15 mins with the dial to max cold, ac on and recirc button on. if it still doesnt get cold enough, have it looked at. oh and change your cabin filters too. it blocks alot of airflow.
before you do anything, drive it at 65mph for 15 mins with the dial to max cold, ac on and recirc button on. if it still doesnt get cold enough, have it looked at. oh and change your cabin filters too. it blocks alot of airflow.
Thread Starter
Diamond Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 1
From: MD
Rep Power: 0 




Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
alright, good thing i didnt use it
haha
i just took a reading from the gauge
ugh i guess Ill live through summer with sucky A/C.
id much rather spend the money in suspension and sound system upgrades.
haha
i just took a reading from the gauge
ugh i guess Ill live through summer with sucky A/C.
id much rather spend the money in suspension and sound system upgrades.
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 811 










Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
well i really dont think its even possible to put any refrigerent in with that high of pressure. it prolly all just vented out around the hole.
Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
I charged mine with a couple of cans of 134 and got it to blow cold enough for me. I did suck it down with a vacum pump for 5 hours before I put any in. I should add that now I have no a/c at all. My clutch flew off the compressor while i was driving down the road. Prob had nothing to do with me charging it but stranger things have happened.
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 811 










Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
did you add the right kind of oil after you drained the system? its very possible you seized the compressor either using wrong oil or none at all.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,362
Likes: 1
From: Portland, Oregon
Rep Power: 388 










Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
I used a can last summer, or part of a can. The stuff went it, because my stuff got colder, but its right back to the crappy state it was in before, it does get cold, but not cold enough. I'm thinking it has something to do with..... i have no idea. lol
Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
I used the can of 134A with oil. A/C worked fine for a few weeks then I started it up one morning and it was not getting cold. Turned a/c off and drove a few miles. Pushed the button to see if it would work and a few seconds later there was a noticeable clunk and the clutch was rolling down the road. All the teeth on the inside of the shaft hole on the clutch were ground off, but the shaft on the compressor looks fine. Now I'm debating clutch kit vs new comp.
Thread Starter
Diamond Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 1
From: MD
Rep Power: 0 




Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
but if it really was that dangerous, wouldnt there be a warning on the can or in the owners manual or something? maybe the danger just lies in overpressurizing. and wtf is with the gauge telling me my A/c is at 45psi if the tank holds well over 100psi?
and triz
if it the tank holds over 100psi, you probably added sayy a few psi (maybe 20) on the top of the compressor. So this stuff was very cold for a short while, when all the new stuff was pure. but then it probably got mixed in with all the rest of the 100psi particles, therefore diminishing its effectiveness.
My theory anyway.
and triz
if it the tank holds over 100psi, you probably added sayy a few psi (maybe 20) on the top of the compressor. So this stuff was very cold for a short while, when all the new stuff was pure. but then it probably got mixed in with all the rest of the 100psi particles, therefore diminishing its effectiveness.
My theory anyway.
Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
From what I understand, it's not so much dangerous as ineffective in high-pressure systems, such as ours.
Just for reference, here's how the system works, on very general terms:

With increased pressure, the temperature drops dramatically since volume is constant (closed system). Application of the ideal gas law. The inverse is true of turbos, because volume is never limited by the environment.
Just for reference, here's how the system works, on very general terms:

With increased pressure, the temperature drops dramatically since volume is constant (closed system). Application of the ideal gas law. The inverse is true of turbos, because volume is never limited by the environment.
Last edited by Unevolved; Jun 28, 2008 at 10:30 PM.
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 51,241
Likes: 20
From: NV
Rep Power: 811 










Re: Not-So-Cold A/C
yup, and on the back of a can is a warning that says if the pressure gauge reads in the yellow or red, take it to a shop lol.
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
h4ldol
7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005
5
Apr 24, 2017 08:16 PM
JMKendrick
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
4
Sep 16, 2015 06:17 PM
MichaelLW
Fuel, Oil, Cleaners & Other Maintenance
2
Sep 14, 2015 07:15 AM
andyandyy
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
3
Aug 4, 2015 06:37 PM





