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there about 700 members here and i dont kno of anyone with a DIS ignition system. now is that cuz they dont work with our civics or nobody has as yet tried it.it is afterall for non distributer cars like ours.some one tell me b4 i waste 400 buks on it.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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to be honest i have never heard of DIS ignitions, so i am sorry man but i wish i could help.

INJEN

 
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The only ignition system out for our cars that I know of is the Ignition Solutions Coils... since we don't have a distrubutor MSD is out....

 
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actually msd makes a dis upgrade too... i cant link the page for some reason but here's the info




Higher Output Race Only
DIS Ignition Controls
For race engines with sky-high boost or compression, the DIS-High Output Ignitions are the answer. The HO models produce an incredible 170 milliJoules of spark energy with 470 volts going to the coil packs.
The DIS-HO Ignitions share all the same built-in features and multiple sparks of the original DIS Ignitions. These Ignitions are not CARB approved and are designed for drag race engines only.
MSD DIS-2 HO, PN 62111*
2-Coil Packs
MSD DIS-4, PN 62151*
2,3 or 4 Coil Packs
*Not legal for sale or use on pollution controlled vehicles.

OPERATING SPECIFICATIONS
DIS-HO 2 AND 4
Spark Energy: 170 milliJoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 470 Volts
Output Voltage: 43,000 Volts (Stock Coil)
Operating Voltage: 12-18 Volts, NEG. Ground
Current Draw: DIS-2 HO, 5.3 amps@10,000 rpm
DIS-4 HO, 10 amps@10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 12,500 rpm w/14.4 Volt Supply


Soft Touch Rev Control

Two Step Module Selector

Programmable Timing Control

LED Monitor

Ignition Interrupt

EMI Noise Protection

Specifications



MSD DIS-2, PN 6211 (2 Channel Ignition)
MSD DIS-4, PN 6215 (4 Channel Ignition)
Maximize your vehicle’s distributorless ignition system (DIS) with MSD’s powerful new ignition controls; the MSD DIS-2 and DIS-4. These Ignition Controls feature Multi-Channel capability, and can deliver up to 480 volts to the primary side of most DIS type dual output coils. With its two channels, the MSD Digital DIS-2 is designed for use on all 4-cylinder applications using 2 coils, while the DIS-4 can be used on all 6 and 8-cylinder engines with three or four coils.
These new DIS Ignitions feature the race proven capacitive discharge, multiple spark design of the MSD 6 Series Ignitions. Each spark of the MSD Digital DIS Ignitions is packed with up to 115 millijoules of spark energy, resulting in more efficient combustion to produce more power. To improve low speed throttle response, smooth out the idle and stop low speed spark plug fouling our engineers included MSD’s proven multiple spark discharge feature. This race tested design produces a series of full power sparks that last for 20° of crankshaft rotation to ensure complete combustion of the fuel mixture!
The MSD DIS Ignition Controls are an incredible breakthrough for late model Mustangs, Grand Nationals, Talons, Mitsubishi GT 3000s and a list of other DIS Ignition equipped vehicles. With the proven MSD Ignition high speed RISC microcontroller technology and years of performance ignition experience, the MSD DIS Ignition Controls will make a great addition to your car!
Soft Touch REV Control
The DIS-2 and DIS-4 both feature an adjustable built-in Soft Touch Rev Control to protect the engine from overrev damage caused by missed shifts or broken driveline components. This feature produces a smooth rev-limiting action by randomly dropping one cylinder at a time and then refiring that cylinder on the next firing cycle. This feature is easily adjusted with simple program switches mounted on the side of the unit.
Two Step Module Selector
The Two Step function of the MSD Digital DIS Ignition allows you to activate a low rpm limit while staging and waiting for the light to turn green. This popular feature gives you a distinct advantage over your competition by permitting you to control your engine’s rpm precisely before every launch. With a fixed rpm limit at the starting line, each launch will be consistent and quick! The rpm limit is easy to adjust in 250 rpm increments with switches built into the side of the housing.
Programmable Timing Control
Precise timing control is essential to producing maximum engine power. With the addition of nitrous, turbos or supercharger systems, timing becomes even more critical. To get the most out of your engine, the ignition must be able to compensate for these extreme changes in cylinder pressure throughout the engine’s entire rpm range. During low speed operation, the MSD DIS Ignitions use the factory ignition to control basic timing functions. Once maximum timing is achieved, the DIS-2 and DIS-4 can be programmed to retard the timing at a specific rate and rpm point to prevent engine damage due to detonation caused by excessive timing.
LED Monitor
A built-in LED monitor is a useful tool to determine the status of the charging and ignition systems. When the battery voltage drops below 8 volts, the LED will begin flashing at a rate of two times per second, letting you know that the charging system is not operating properly or that the battery has failed. Also, if any of the ignition’s channels lose their trigger input, the LED will flash at a rate of one flash per second.
Ignition Interupt
To prevent accidental or unauthorized starting of the vehicle, the MSD DIS Ignition systems feature a driver activated ignition interrupt feature that can be used as an anti-theft device. When activated, this feature will prevent the engine from starting by disabling the ignition’s voltage output to the coil.
EMI Noise Protection
As with all MSD Ignition products, additional protection from Electro Magnetic Interference (EMI) has been added to the design of the DIS. Special circuitry filters out unwanted noise that commonly causes other aftermarket ignition systems to false trigger, operate intermittently and even fail.

MSD DIS-2 (2 Channel Ignition) - PN 6211
MSD DIS-4 (4 Channel Ignition) - PN 6215
DIS OPERATING SPECIFICATIONS
Spark Energy: 105 - 115 milliJoules per spark
Primary Voltage: 460 - 480 Volts Delivered to Coil
Output Voltage: 40,000 + Volts
Spark Series Duration: 20° Crankshaft Rotation
Operating Voltage: 12 - 18 volts, neg. ground
Current Draw: 7.4 amp @ 10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 14,000 rpm with 14.4 volt supply
Weight & Size:
4.5 lbs., 9.5"Lx4.5"Wx2.2"H

 
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Yeah, I read about those a long time ago. I think I remember one dude on this site that had one of those DIS systems on his 7th gen. I'm not entirely sure though... It sounds like it would work. I'm not sure why people prefer the Ignition Solutions crap to MSD? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] I guess it's 'cause the Ignition Solutions is specifically designed for our cars. They're re-fab OEM crap. Basically as useless as LED windshield washer wipers IMO. You can tell by readin the graphs off of their site.

Anyway, when I'm pushin' high boost I might try the MSD DIS system. Otherwise it's not worth it IMO.

 
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thankx fr da info but i jus want to kno that since a DIS is for non distributer cars like ours y shud we even hav to make any further modifications to that thing.it should be a bolt on type of thing.i really want to kno cuz my cusion has a MSD ignition in his car (not DIS though) and it makes a hell alota differnce even with jus an intake and exhaust.

 
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Grey,

I have the ignition solutions system and its not crap. I disagree with you big time here man! I have had the coils for some time and I have tried it with the coils and with the stock coils, and my car is better with the ignition solutions system. Its hard to descrribe, it just runs better, quicker revs, better throttle response, smoother acceleration, they are really nice with the Denso IK20 spark plugs. Heck for close to $500 for the coils, they better do something! oh well, your loss I guess <shrug> Maybe when it gets nicer our I'll do some GTECH runs to see exactly what the deal is....

 
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I'm planning on the MSD dis 4 system when I get larger injectors, Hi flow fuel pump, fuel rail. Boosted talked to MSD and they said it would work on our cars. As for the Ingnition plasma's, My friend got them for his 2002 and it seemed like he had more probs with it than anything...He had to have 3 replaced..

 
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I'm sure they help a little bit, but for the price you're better off just gettin' Denso Iridium spark plugs. You see, there are several things that make me very skeptical of the Ignition Solutions coils. First off, they buy OEM coils and modify them in some way. Second they add on an LED that fires way too many times to last very long. That's why people had to replace some of their coils to get new new LED's added in. Third, it takes only 0.2 mJ to ignite a perfect mixture of air and fuel and 10 to 20 mJ to ignite lean or rich mixtures. If your car is not running rich or lean then the Ignition Solutions coils (if they do actually work) will do nothing for you.

Actually, nowhere on their site do they say how many mJ the stock coils produce and how much their coils produce. All of their data is pretty much useless. MSD does mention these numbers though. Their high ouput DIS ignition systems produce 170 mJ per spark. Their regular DIS series produce 105 - 115 mJ per spark (dependant on which system you get).

I wonder how many mJ the Ignition Solutions coils produce? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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don't get the msd dis ignition because i already emailed them about it and here is what they said.

Sir
The 2001-03 have a ICM (integrated coil module)ignition system that
make it imposible to install any MSD components on to it.

THANK YOU

MSD TECH.

 
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thanx u guys saved me 400 buks but if anybody knows anythin else tell me.

 
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Damn! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]
Really? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
Why!?

Oh well, maybe we can still modify the stock coils in some way...

 
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I dont know anything really about the ignition system in our car but I would really like to upgrade it. Im not paying 500 for ignition solutions, but I would be willing to pay for the msd one, that is if it will work. Are we positive that it wont work? Is there not anyone who has tried it? It doesn't say anywhere on the site it wont work for our car.

 
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i haven't tried it and wouldn't try it since msd said it wouldn't work so i'll take their word on it.