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Old Sep 29, 2002
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what makes our cars ulev?

what parts on our cars make it ulev? is it in the engine or like bolt on parts put there by honda. i would be willing to make my car non-ulev. fock the law.......is there anything i can do to get rid of that crap? thanks guys
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the fact that its so goddamn tiny. the v-tec: e helps too. catylitic converter, hmmm....[hr]
Why post if you don't know what you're talking about? All new cars have a catalytic converter. Mainly it is because of the returnless fuel system, vtec-e (you got one right), and ECM programming. ULEV is why our cars don't repond well to mods. People bi.tch about it but never do anything about it. Convert your fuel system to a return system by adding a return line back to the tank and relocating the fuel pump (now its in the gas tank). Get your ECM re-chipped by JetChip or just get the AEM EMS(engine management system). Now that you have a return fuel system you can get a fuel pressure regulator, fuel rail, and bigger injectors. One last comment, get the ECM re-chipped after doing all of these modifications because they base in on what you have done to your car. Unless you go with the AEM EMS. [IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]
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i know all new cars have a cat dumbass.

he said "fock the law". i was merely suggesting that if u took it off, you would have a less restricted airflow.

oh yah, and the fact that we have a tiny engine DOES cut down on emissions. you moron. by way of thermodynamics....just as much matter that goes in, comes out. maybe if i was member "760" i'd be as cool as you.[hr]
He said, "What makes it ULEV?". Of course 4cyl engines cut down on emissions but not all 4cyl engines are rated ULEV which is what he was referring to. If you wouls've answered the questions correctly then you would've told him what makes the car ULEV and you didn't. There are plenty of 4cyl engines with catalytic converters that are not rated ULEV so obviously that is not what causes it to be rated ULEV. Maybe you're right, if you were around since the beginning you would know this. [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
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LMAO!!! It's the blind leading the blind!!

READ, people!!

Read some more!

Read some more!

Here's more!

Now do you think you can sustain an intelligent discussion on the subject?
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I don't think the ulev rating has much to do with our cars not responding well to mods. Especially, when you are talking about the ex model. It doesn't respond well to bolt-ons simply because the stock pieces are very efficient to begin with. The stock intake isn't nearly as restrictive as on past hondas. The header resembles an aftermarket unit in every way but what it is made of. The exhuast system is mendral bent and very free-flowing. It has coils instead of the distributor type ignition system. Everything as been maximized to a good extent.

That's why we are seeing nice gains out of the bolt-on parts.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
That's why we are seeing nice gains out of the bolt-on parts.[hr]

nice gains out of the bolt on parts? i/h/e will only give you like 5 hp MAX.[hr]
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LMAO!!! It's the blind leading the blind!!

READ, people!!

Read some more!

Read some more!

Here's more!

Now do you think you can sustain an intelligent discussion on the subject?[hr]
I haven't stated any incorrect information. The returnless fuel system, vtec-e, and the ECM play a part in everything those articles talked about. So I didnt elaborate on what types of gases the sh.it lets out into the air. Who f.ucking cares! You gonna tell me if i had a different fuel system and a rechipped ECM that my car would still be ULEV? I dont care what type of technology they have in there if I increase my fuel maps its gonna change my emissions.
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[hr]Originally posted by: EvilDave666
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
That's why we are seeing nice gains out of the bolt-on parts.[hr]

nice gains out of the bolt on parts? i/h/e will only give you like 5 hp MAX.[hr]
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LMAO!!! It's the blind leading the blind!!

READ, people!!

Read some more!

Read some more!

Here's more!

Now do you think you can sustain an intelligent discussion on the subject?[hr]
I haven't stated any incorrect information. The returnless fuel system, vtec-e, and the ECM play a part in everything those articles talked about. So I didnt elaborate on what types of gases the sh.it lets out into the air. Who f.ucking cares! You gonna tell me if i had a different fuel system and a rechipped ECM that my car would still be ULEV? I dont care what type of technology they have in there if I increase my fuel maps its gonna change my emissions.[hr]

ROFLMAO!! "The returnless fuel system, vtec-e, and the ECM play a part in everything..." NO. They don't "play a part"; they are everything, and the real key here is the TYPE of catalytic converter being used, along with the ECM maps for air/fuel and ignition.

And yes, you can have your cake and eat it, too. You can certainly modify the ECM, the fuel system, and the ignition system and still retain ULEV compliance. It is the ECM tuning that is crucial here, working with the VTEC system to precisely meter and utilize fuel, based on load and airflow.

Remember when OBDII came on the scene, and how everyone including some of the most experienced and respected tuners said it would be next to impossible to tune cars for performance anymore?

BS. I had a OBDII-compliant Jetta VR6 with programmable ECM and a centrifugal supercharger which did not pollute any more than the original motor did.

Who the fvck cares??? Well, if you don't then don't even discuss the issue, or tell people to "know what they're talking about before they post".

READ SOME MORE!! U might learn something...
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ROFLMAO!! "The returnless fuel system, vtec-e, and the ECM play a part in everything..." NO. They don't "play a part"; they are everything, and the real key here is the TYPE of catalytic converter being used, along with the ECM maps for air/fuel and ignition.

dont tell me to go learn more when all you doing is taking what i say and expanding on it.
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Guys listen I am getting my ecu h4x3d right now i payed 2 grand and supposed to get 200 hp at the wheels. I test drove their si stock and it was dynoed (excuse spelling if its misspelled) i had 243 hp a the wheels. I even saw the sheet, this guy is an inside man in orange county, and he makes lots of money, some guy at a shop told me about him told me to give him a call. BTW im not lying. Very true. The shop is in Westminister, I cannot post the name of the shop. It's an inside deal, but I will post dyno's, that is once I get time and money.
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BTW it would be a good idead to rebuild the engine which I will do asap.
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That's why we are seeing nice gains out of the bolt-on parts.[hr]

nice gains out of the bolt on parts? i/h/e will only give you like 5 hp MAX.[hr]
That was a boo boo. I was trying to say that is why we "aren't" getting nice gains.

Anyhow, all that other stuff may very well help. However, when you have stock components that look just like aftermarket components, well, you think about it....

 
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