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Old Jan 15, 2007
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car turns like crap in the SNOW !!!

when I did up the handling , I purchased springs 1.3 front an rear drop , with shocks and struts along with a sway bar and all the bushing I think from energysuspension. I installed all these parts at the same time to get mass effect and it kicked *** until the snow came even a dusting I cant turn for **** wit the car I even pulled a 1080 twice jsut making a carosel turn a 70km. well how many people feel me Im here in Toronto, think cambers might help or ??????????
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Mine handles good in the snow so IDk
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Originally Posted by bluesteelrock
when I did up the handling , I purchased springs 1.3 front an rear drop , with shocks and struts along with a sway bar and all the bushing I think from energysuspension. I installed all these parts at the same time to get mass effect and it kicked *** until the snow came even a dusting I cant turn for **** wit the car I even pulled a 1080 twice jsut making a carosel turn a 70km. well how many people feel me Im here in Toronto, think cambers might help or ??????????
I don't think any suspension stuff will do anything lol... the civic is a light car, and slides very easily. If anything get snow tires

I feel like I'm in Tokyo Drift gankin my e-brake and sliding WHEEEEEEEE
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Its your tires.
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Holy **** a 1080!!! haha or maybe you ment 180. its your tires, not your suspension.
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ya, suspension upgrades do nothing for your cars handling in the snow. its your tires and the slick roads that make your car slide.
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90% is your tires then suspension comes to play(like in turns) like 5-10%
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lol, flashbacks of mount shasta in cali, lol
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lol, definetly going to need snowtires if you like to drive fast
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expecting way too much out of your tires.. and taking turns at 70km/h when theres snow isnt exactly the safest...
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Tires for sure...but if your camber is really bad you should take care of that as well. Then your new snow tires that you're going to buy will last longer
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expecting way too much out of your tires.. and taking turns at 70km/h when theres snow isnt exactly the safest...
yeah, thats 40+ mph... And I know if I take one of the circle-offramps at that, my back end will slide out and give me a scare.. thats when the road doesnt have any problems (ice/snow/rain)

Slow down buddy, whatever your racing to will be there a few minutes later, nothings worth crashing over.
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Originally Posted by 2002civicLX2002
ya, suspension upgrades do nothing for your cars handling in the snow. its your tires and the slick roads that make your car slide.
Actually, increasing the rear sway bar will induce oversteer especially in low traction events (snow). Tires will help keep traction but if the tires begin to slip then the tail will still want to kick out. I'd vote for new tires and taking it easy in the snow! Every car has its limits, no need pushing them and endangering yourself or others unless you know what you're doing and know how to control it. Even then it's just not smart to tempt fate.
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Snow tires ftw!
No show where I live ftw! not having to spend extra money on a set of tires ftw!
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It's snowing here now that I'm back at school, and I haven't pushed or anything in the snow yet, but I've been taking corners very slow, and mashing it when it gets straight for fun I'm still on 17x7 with crappy VentusII tires that suck even in the rain.
So imma have to say its the tires, or excessive speed.
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Originally Posted by lxcivic2k1
I'm still on 17x7 with crappy VentusII tires
I laugh when I see aftermarket rims in absolute crappy winter weather!
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lol all of toronto area is talking about the snow, since the first major snowfall of the season
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snow here is insane, we have gotten two storms in the past two weeks that have dumped a fott or more at a time. now its in the negative for the past week and so everything is solid ice. its fun when your the only one ont he road but all the other idiot drivers scare me. thats why i take my girls jeep when i can.
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I put a 70 lbs bag of sand in my truck. my car handles like a dream in the winter. give it a try doesnt have to be sand. Hell it could be a dead body.
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my subs and box weigh more than that and i still slide, on accident sometimes to.
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Originally Posted by Kevbotron
I laugh when I see aftermarket rims in absolute crappy winter weather!
yea...its all I have since I bought the car with the wheels, but it's not too bad, I guess the subs help some. Atleast there's an accord with 18s doin the same thing as me in my apparment complex, lol.
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Everything you did was in the interest of dry grip. None of that will help in the snow, its the opposite of what you want. You want the car to be compliant,not stiff. Disconnect an endlink on the rear sway bar. And get some snow tires. All seasons are a farce.
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How you drive is probably the biggest role, and not expect too much out of your car...

Snow here in Vancouver, roads are iced over, and I'm still running my 17" Work Emotions with Kumho 712s... and I'm doing just fine, haven't gotten stuck yet, haven't spun out yet, haven't slid into a curb yet
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better get you some snow tires
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hmm i for some reason doubt that your subs and amp weighs more then 70 lbs. my amp probly weighs like 10-15. and subs are just as light....
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You should be more careful. Taking certain turns at 40+ mph in ANY conditions isnt a good idea. Last thing we need is to hear about how you died from driving like an *** in shitty conditions.

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You should be more careful. Taking certain turns at 40+ mph in ANY conditions isnt a good idea. Last thing we need is to hear about how you died from driving like an *** in shitty conditions.
Lil harsh but so true. Ya gotta be patient in snow especially for other drivers...
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I think mine handles a tad better lowered...I've got the factory umm...Bridgestone Potenzas on with less then half tread and I don't notice any negatives compared to last winter (not lowered then).
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well Ive got Toyo all season maybe its laws of gravity and force ex: if you walk very slow on ice you won't fall but, if you try running u will slip , running induces more grip I guess the same with sport suspension?
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Even winter tires aren't going to help you at that speed. Drive slower. As for suspension, removing the rear endlinks on the sway bar is a great idea. If you have adjustable shock absorbers, set them softer.

Understeer may not be the preffered handling characteristic on the track. But a FWD car in the snow is much easier to control in understeer rather than oversteer. Most cars are tuned to understeer from the factory.
 
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