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O no I dont mess with the settings AT ALL!

I paided a shop to sodder it to my ECU and dyno tune it.

115 WHP @ 112WTQ!!!

I mess with the monitor opptions and what not.

It perfect as is...

no wideband, Ill get one when I have the cam...

 
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woohoo im back. website went down and i was trippin. why you gonna get wideband when you get the cam?

 
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Because with the wideband I can "fine tune" the VAFC2.

My sentting are perfect now with no cam.

When I get the cam I will re tune on the dyno with the wideband.

Perfecting my Air/fuel ratios.

With a wideband you can see WAY more & fine tune Air/fuel.

 
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im not fine tuning **** until my motor is rebuilt. im gonna use the vafc2 to get it to run long enough for me to finish ordering my parts, get my donor block machined, and build that bitch. then im going emanage.

 
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I my opinion you should get EMS.

just my .2

 
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Why buy VAFCII and then emanage.. seems like a waste just get the emanage in one shabang.... maybe I just see it differently. Good luck either way.

 
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he is moding his car in steps.

not all at once.

step one VAFC

step two build

step three emang

 
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whats up guys...ive been thinking about going all motor. i got the 2005 EX 5 speed. are the crower stage 2 cam really worth it? ive been thinking about buying them.

 
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im not going emanage yet because i had to do a vtec head swap first and im getting a complete a2 head, vafc2, and harness for $290. gonna swap for stage 2 cam and ride with that while i build my donor d17 and then swap. then ill go emanage. ive heard people have a lot of problems with ems

 
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I see didn't know you had a deal on the vafc2 that makes sense.

2K5CIVICBOY20, alot of ppl have tried the stage one and love it. Only like 2 ppl used the stage 2 and liked it besides the idle issues and have moved on to bigger projects such as turbo. We are all experimenting here but are excited to seek the results we want.

 
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i cant wait for my stage 2. i kinda like the idle. i wish i still lived with my parents so i could drop my whole paycheck on parts. 150 ALL MOTOR HORSEPOWER HERE I COME!!!

 
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I think the stage 2 is worth it...

just my opinion tho.

 
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it should definately be worth it. but remember, its not like switchin cams in a big block chevy or anything. its still a d17.

 
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kool. yea cause im in the process of buying cams. but i dont know which one to get yet. either stage 1 or stage 2. im not thinking about turbo yet... tryin to keep it all motor. tryin to see what it can really do. ya know?

 
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if you dont mind the rough idle, id opt for the stage 2. the stage 2 probably wouldnt do bad with a mild turbo set up as well, but dont take that to the bank. hell id go with the stage 3 but im daily driving this car and i dont wanna be runnin 8 grand through rush hour traffic just tryin to get some power.

 
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but you can work out the rough idle though, right? STAGE 3? damn cant. i got the same problem. its a daily driver car. too much traffic. if it was open road..then i would.

 
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the rough idle is part of the stage 2 cam. caused by bigger lobes. stage 3 is full race. no way to daily drive with it and be practical.

 
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big no on the stage 3 again.

no you can not work out the rough idle....

unless you get EMS.

even with emang you cant adjust idle or rev limiter

you can only adjust ignition with emang.

the stage two is still going to spuder in low RPM's with out EMS or emang

dont forget this...

 
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so i gotta get the ems or emang with the cams? thanks for the info guys. im new on here. ive had my vic for about a year now...i used to have a 97 civic ex. what else can i do to the d17 to gain more power? quicker response?

 
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Hey man you don't "need" emanage or ems it just helps the car run smoother than just a VAFC2. Don't get me wrong its not that much smoother but its just a plus as far as tuning, (ignition timing) and all that jazz. For quicker response get yourself some Unorthodox pullies and lighter flywheel. That was what I was recommended by my friend that sold the cam to me. Also, he said a cam gear would be good to as I've learned cam timing is not the same is ignition timing.

 
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intake, header, exhaust, pulleys, flywheel, upgrade your engine grounds, bypass your throttle body heater if you dont live somewhere where it snows all the time, and some weight reduction. those are some minor mods without getting into engine internals. im about to do a full rebuild with new pistons, rods, sleeves, crank, stage 2 cam, and all the go fast goodies you can cram in a d17.

 
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As listed above good mods...

Its funny I have every thing on your list uncle...

except the throttle heater.

I love my 4 puck clutch and 7lbs flywheel!!!

Watch out tho because of my 4 puck and flywheel.

I F*CKED up my tranny & half shafts!!!

And correct you dont "need" the EMS or emang.

Its all for perfecting your tune!!!

 
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is the hub in your clutch sprung or unsprung?

 
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sprung!!!

sprung!!!

sprung!!!

 
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nice to see the na d17 enthusiasm

 
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Thanks for the suport mota!!!

Its been rough to say the least!!!

 
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is that 133 whp on an n/a d17???

 
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corect with a stage 2^

 
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nice. well, if i just didnt get ripped off by the dude i bought my head from, ill be glad to get my stage 2 in.

 
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what makes you think you "might" get riped off??^