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Old Apr 24, 2005
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I suppose everyone is familair with the CryO2 system from DEI? It is a CO2 system that has a mounted intercooler sprayer that sprays a CO2 mists in front of your intercooler for colder air induction into your turbo. http://www.designengineering.com is where its located.

Anyways here is my question. What would happen if you were to take this system and mount an injector into your CAI? That speaking if you didn't have a turbo kit? Would it be the same as a NOS system? I am in NO WAY a techy guy and I was just curious if a system like this could be done this way? Colder air get better combustion right? So would this be a good thing or a thing you should stay the hell away from because it would screw up your engine?
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I think nx already makes a kit that sprays into the intake you may want to check that out first instead.
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i know for sure that venom makes an intake system like that
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off topic, but thats awesome ^^^. boondock saints kicks ***.

but yea check out the nitrous companies websites.
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if you are trying to inject co2 into the engine you will kill the performance
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^its supose to be cool and lower the temp in the engine
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Gasoline needs oxygen to burn. If you inject Nitrous, you increase the level of Oxygen allowing for a cleaner burn, resulting in more power. Plain ole oxygen won't work because it's too flammable and would explode

If you inject CO2 you decrease the amount of oxygen, resulting in less fuel burn than normal, causing a reduction in power.
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just try it and tell us how it goes
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CO2 is used to cool intake parts (such as portions of an intake), not be charged into the intake track.
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yes that is correct. and if your intake is dirrectly behind your intercooler you may still suck some co2 into the intake making it less effective.
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think of it as suffocating the engine.
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Uh...CryO2 has a intake system for those without a intercooler.

It's their cyrogenic intake system.
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=4

A metal ball is fitted inside between the intake pipes similar to how you would install a bypass filter.

The Co2 is supposed to cool the ball which in turn chills the airs going into the intake.

Go buy it, give it a try, and tell us how it goes.
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i think it doesn't cool the ball itself...i think the ball is like a blocking mechanism like the ones used in the water dispensors for rats and ginea pigs.

the pipe is a double layered, where the outside layer circulates cold co2, and the inner layer is where the intake air passes through. that makes it pretty efficient

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Originally Posted by chocobo15_2000
i think it doesn't cool the ball itself...i think the ball is like a blocking mechanism like the ones used in the water dispensors for rats and ginea pigs.

the pipe is a double layered, where the outside layer circulates cold co2, and the inner layer is where the intake air passes through. that makes it pretty efficient

i don't know, it looks like the line passes through the bulb. not sure on that. but an average of 9% horsepower increase is pretty good.
mounting it as close the to TB as possible would yeild the best results by not allowing the engine compartment to heat up the air again beyond the cryo air intake.
i wonder if mounting the exit valve infront of the radiator or an installed oil cooler would benefit even more.
it would be cool to install a second line from the bottle directly over the engine itself, in the event of an engine fire, you could spray it down and suffocate the fire.
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you know call me crazy but why not just get a used nitrous kit instead.
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Originally Posted by big_daddy_b_99
you know call me crazy but why not just get a used nitrous kit instead.

CO2 is way cheaper than nitrous oxide. this is a no-risk mod too. there is always that risk with nitrous, for unexperienced users that is.
 
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