gearbox

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stock halogen is around 1800 lumen

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Don't lie to me, gearbox, 9003/H4 helogen are having low beam at 910lm....high beam is 1500lm, but we seldem use it anyway...H1 is better at 1410lm (if reflector is used instead of crappy projector :P)....

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

i should've been more specific. MY H1 puts out 1800+ lumens. I have osram silverstar +300 over stock, and an upgraded wire harness.

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You are talking about E1 (ECE) Silverstar aren't you?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

yes made by osram, not ricer bulb sylvania, and not d.o.t. approved (shh)

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I don't think anybody gets into this Lighting forum have got everything DOT approved in his car....lol

gearbox

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ya but i mean nobody is gonna notice. the projectors have so much less glare than halogen its crazy.

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You still have hid in place of the projector or what?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

no just halogen projector with osram bulbs. someday i'll get it retrofitted but i'm pretty happy with halogen.

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Man, I finally found out what casues HID projector so "shinny"....It's not the project itself, it's the front polycarbon lense.....It magnifies the light and make it apear so white when viewing in front of it (well, provide that you are not looking into the projector, which is yellowish)....

I checked that last week for glare when I was looking at it about 25 feet away on the level a little bit higher than the headlight....I found that the bottom chrome stuff has nothing to do with the light that illuminates the overhead signs...I can't even see that bottom chrome stuff when I am about 10 feet from the car, and 20 feet I only see the projector, even with an angle....So do you think the projector itself is illuminating the overhead signs?

P.S. Those upward lights are very uniform spread from side to side, and it illuminates the signs for more than 1/4 miles above the cutoff....

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

thats good if they do. mine dont have any light above the cutoff and barely light up signs. i usually see the blue light band on the speed signs. But my lenses are cloudy. Maybe the hid ones have some sort of glare built in to light up signs.

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If a car is a quarter maile ahead and have low license plate, I see its license plate is blue/purple...I don't light up speed signs from below the cutoff, but the signs are illuminated....As I get very close (80 degrees from my view) to it it becomes darker and darker....Check the pictures I posted up there in the parking lot(not wall shot), there's
no-parking sign on the left side below a street light, near the SUV......I illuminated that sign also...You should see that the sign is well above the cutoff...

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/at...1&d=1144655534

Cloudy....Man, mail me your lense and I send you a "cleaned" one....Actually I took off the projector and cleaned it with alcohol and it became clear....It's so clear that I can even use it as a magnifier(well, top/down reversed)...

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

im too lazy to take them off again lol. but its not that its dirty, just opaque like the mazda3 projectors. wow yea your hid lights up much more ahead.

7thGenerasianCivic

iTrader: (13)

roam around www.suvlights.com they have some good info there.

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I think if ppl are trying to retrofit a projector, get new Philips 85122+ instead of 85122 bulbs, if 85122+ is available....Those 85122+ bulbs are to be much bluer than 85122 and is a color match model for 1000 hour of 85122 (85122+ at 5000K)....The output remains almost at same level (3100lm vs. 3200lm)....