Refreshing my high mileage D17
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Refreshing my high mileage D17
Ok so I’m thinking about the idea of pulling my engine and giving it a little love to bring some life back into it. I know Honda’s can go for 300k+ just how it came from factory (if maintained properly) but after all the problems it’s developed I just wanna pull it and change out most of the factory parts. I’m fine with going back with genuine OEM parts and keeping it at the stock parameters but what would you guys recommend as far as what are the vital parts to replace? Of course gaskets would be one of the first on the lists.. Also while it’s apart I’m considering throwing in a Crower Stage 1 cam just for the slight gain. Replace hoses, wires, check harnesses? Also will be giving the whole engine a good cleaning to clean out any carbon buildup. Any thoughts, ideas, recommendations and info are appreciated.
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There's no guarantee/warranty on that mileage..lol
Please provide a history of the issues that has you considering a partial or full overhaul.
Depends on what issues it currently experiencing, how much you want to have it overhauled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_tuning (scroll down to overhaul section), and how much money you're willing to spend.
Use OEM parts as much as possible (if available).
Of course gaskets would be one of the first on the lists.. Also while it’s apart I’m considering throwing in a Crower Stage 1 cam just for the slight gain. Replace hoses, wires, check harnesses? Also will be giving the whole engine a good cleaning to clean out any carbon buildup. Any thoughts, ideas, recommendations and info are appreciated.
How many miles on the engine presently? Any oil leaks, coolant leaks, CEL's?, misfires, knocking, burning oil, etc..
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Engine currently has 276,650 miles and counting since i drive it quite often. Has CEL light on for codes P0340, P0341, P0401, P1259, and one more but I can’t find the picture of it to remember. I’ve asked on other threads about the issues and most seem simple to fix or could just be simple electrical issues. I don’t know the entire history of the motor, but based of the looks and driving habits I seen from the guy I bought it from I doubt he took good care of it. It has a ticking coming from somewhere in the head, a oil leak from somewhere that I still haven’t found although I know it’s leaking from the oil pan or the drain bolt but that’s not the only place I see oil at. I plan on keeping this car for a while and eventually plan on fixing the small body issues so I want to make sure the motor is gonna last long enough without problems so I can have the money to throw at the body. Of course I could always just fix whatever codes are being thrown and invest in the bodywork instead but....that’s not the case here.
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Instead of rebuild, maybe
Drop in a low mileage used engine
With a fresh head gasket and timing belt
Cost might be the same or less depending on how cheap you get an engine for
Drop in a low mileage used engine
With a fresh head gasket and timing belt
Cost might be the same or less depending on how cheap you get an engine for
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I was also considering this idea, I’ve looked around thru google search and found a few A2’s for ~$500-$650 but I mostly come across the JDM D17A and I thought I read something about how the wiring would need changing. Not really sure what the thread said anymore though. Did find somewhere local that has some engines but he said all of his were automatic, would this work? What would need to be swapped/modified? If anything?
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Read more. Most only need the pressure switch on the VTEC valve transferred to make the D17A2 ECM happy.
You're only buying the block and head of the engine, anything else that doesn't need swapped over in the process is a bonus.
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Read more. Most only need the pressure switch on the VTEC valve transferred to make the D17A2 ECM happy.
It will work, swap the flywheel and pilot bearing over.
You're only buying the block and head of the engine, anything else that doesn't need swapped over in the process is a bonus.
It will work, swap the flywheel and pilot bearing over.
You're only buying the block and head of the engine, anything else that doesn't need swapped over in the process is a bonus.
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Remember, you are only buying a block and head. Anything else that doesn't match your original has to be transferred. Anything that does match MIGHT be usable as you receive it, but you probably won't find out how good it is until you can run and drive it.
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Hold on. What problem are you having exactly? Just oil leaks and ticking? Maybe check your valve adjustment for the ticking? I wouldn't do anything major unless you have a reason to, like low compression, burning oil or knocking. None of those codes you have are even related to an internal engine issue, so I don't see your logic. Mileage alone isn't a reason to replace the engine.
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Haven’t even bothered to check yet. Probably should’ve tried checking the wiring on everything first but I ordered replacement parts instead to see if it’s a mechanical issue. Say there’s a bad harness or bad terminals in a connector, what do I do as far as replacing? Where can I find these harnesses at? (VTEC solenoid, Cam sensor, etc) Would cleaning up the terminals with some sort of electrical cleaner possibly help? I know there’s no real way to just guess what could be bad in the wiring without checking voltage throughout and i know this’ll sound dumb but I’d rather changeout parts and clean terminals before I go checking voltage on everything and start replacing harnesses and connectors.
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Hold on. What problem are you having exactly? Just oil leaks and ticking? Maybe check your valve adjustment for the ticking? I wouldn't do anything major unless you have a reason to, like low compression, burning oil or knocking. None of those codes you have are even related to an internal engine issue, so I don't see your logic. Mileage alone isn't a reason to replace the engine.
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If it has an internal noise and it's not the valve adjustment, it's not worth fixing IMO. You would be better off installing a low mileage used engine. The D17 is a very common and inexpensive engine, so I'd replace it. As a bonus, you'd have a parts engine loaded with good parts.
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If it has an internal noise and it's not the valve adjustment, it's not worth fixing IMO. You would be better off installing a low mileage used engine. The D17 is a very common and inexpensive engine, so I'd replace it. As a bonus, you'd have a parts engine loaded with good parts.
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