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Ok I'm a strange one and that is my plan. No cat back or the normal exhaust setup. So I figure the only way to even have a chance to make it fit would be to take two factory resonators cut a section out of the middle and weld them back together maybe then I could make it fit. My question i know I'm not the first one to want or to have done this I heard one way least amount of backpressure the better which would mean maybe 2 inch pipe then I hear u need some backpressure so then maybe a 1.75 set of pipes gonna eventually put an 8 psi turbo on it in a few months any insight would be helpful

 
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If you want performance instead of rice side pipes then get a single pipe exhaust like a Spoon N1, even dual 1.75 inch pipes are way to big and will cause nothing but problems.

 
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What if I get the crappiest bend to help restrict the air flow? Not too much worried bout performance.....sorta this setup will flow better than my stock setup I jus wanna do something different... Any not tryin to be a smartass but sidepipes are more of an oldschool american v8 thing aren't they? So they can't be ricer. Comon dude jus don't wanna do what everone else has done. And askin for some advice on how to make it work not how it won't work

 
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They're not rice on an old school muscle car, but if they offer no benefit and detract from performance on an import then they're rice. You can do anything you want to your ride, even if it is rice, it's your car so make it your own. Sometimes things that haven't been done are that way for a reason though.

 
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True so is it a backpressure issue exhaust flow column thing? There's got to be something u can do with the pipes to make it a better setup than stock. It might not have the gains of a tried and tested catback? If its backpressure then wouldn't smaller pipes cure that somewhat ?
I know its not a normal import thing but then again like I said I'm not a normal person I've always done things different than everyone else. Sometimes they r right sometimes I sit back a say "see I told u I could make it work"

 
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Cut the exhaust then add fake side pipes. That way people can't see 3 pipes. Now that would be rice. lol.

 
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Lol. I could just cut at the res and weld a three way fork in and pipe it out the sides and rear.....or I could do away with my tri-y and pipe all 4 cylinders 1 out each side in front and behind. Rear wheel that would be a very different setup
Roflmao

 
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There are lots of things that people haven't done or don't do very often, you just need to distinguish between it not being done because of the difficulty or the lack of benefits. One day when I have a shitty engine I can afford to screw up I want to cut a hole in a valve cover and make a lexan top, so I can see the valves and cam while the engines running. Have you ever seen that, I doubt it; is it functional, kinda; does it detract from performance, nope.

One of the big things that would prevent me from doing it is the sound, if you look up a Spoon N1 exhaust on youtube and you compare it to a POS generic ebay one you'll notice a huge difference. The sound of an exhaust is something you'll hear constantly and even though its entirely superficial I would define it as important, I can almost guarantee a set of side pipes will sound like ****.

It's not just back pressure, it's also flow, the two factors need to be balanced in perfect harmony along with engine conditions. Even on a turbo'd car a 3 inch exhaust is sufficient, your talking about a 3.5-4 inch exhaust on a N/A car and using bends to constrict the emissions in the first half of the exhaust near the engine. That will not only not give gains, that will kill power and fuel efficiency.

I'm not trying to be a buzz kill here man, I totally support doing unique and doing creative things, the interior lights in my car are all purple and I'm working on a custom front lip, some things are just bad ideas no matter how you spin it though.

 
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Good point and I have seen my valves.....well combustion side ok this just came to mind if it gets. Shot down..... Knowin me I'll still try what if I y at the resonator gonna hafta wrap hella header wrap down driver side loop around bottom of trunk go thu the mufflers positioned like crxs and come back front then exit them does that stand a chance? Lots of piping yeah

 
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To much piping, you won't produce enough back pressure and the engine will be flooded with exhaust.

If you really wanted to do a side exit exhaust then you could put a gentle bend in the exhaust beginning at the downpipe so that it arcs towards the rear tire, the exhaust would be significantly shorter though and that would make it crazy loud with very low back pressure.

Exhausts seem simple, but there one of the most complicated parts of a car. There's a reason why you can easily spend $1500 on a header and $2000 on a catback.

 
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Ok I'm with ya I'm gonna think about this still gonna try to bend or break the rules and if I get away with it ill let u know but definitly food for thought so simply put it basically needs to flow at the maximum a certain volume of gasses with the least amount of back pressure at a constant velocity or something like that

 
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But I can still y at the res go down both sides and exit out the back right

 
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To create a dual exhaust? Yes, you could do that, but to achieve any usable amount of back pressure they would need to be 1.5 inch or smaller dual pipes that Y at the res. It's been done before, someone who lives near me did it actually.

 
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option is to have separate pipes for normal and open exhaust using the jeg's (or any of the other ones sold there) - will add weight to car, though. not sure how to work them, maybe 2 of them for each pipe? or just one for the open setup

http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performan...31909/10002/-1

quote website:
JEGS Electric Exhaust Cutouts eliminate the need to un-cap your cutouts every time that you arrive at the track and re-cap them before going home. Go from closed to open or open to closed just by flipping a switch. Kits include 6061-T6 aluminum cutout valve(s) with stainless butterfly(s), wiring harness with weather tight connector(s), switch and hardware. Available for single or dual exhaust systems. Requires flanged cutout pipe(s) for installation

Jekyll and Hyde setup with the flip of a switch.

also, enter google for exhaust theory - this is one of the hits:

http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Miscella...austtheory.htm

 
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^^ Yeah, I've seen a setup like that. Local guy has a B20 in his '93 hatch so he can go from super load to just loud when the cops are around. Of course, he "has a guy" for emissions.

 
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is "the emission guy" deaf by any chance?