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Old Oct 10, 2006
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mustang throttle body on civic?

OK i knwo some people have tried this i am custom making a intake manifold to take a mustang throttle body but what i dont understand is where the sewnsors from my old throttle body go? Can someone explain that to me the sensor that has the denso goa dn all the other ones? Any help will be great and where can i get the tube for the intake ports? I have been all over and cant find it any help will be great











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I think the member "supermex" has a mustang throttle body on his car. Send him a pm.
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^ what he said
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ya i talked to him about it just wanted to know if anyone else did it on the site
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I think the member "supermex" has a mustang throttle body on his car. Send him a pm.
ok i just asked him

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I understand everything except where do the sensors go and when i wiring the throttle sensor what color wires match up from the honda to the mustang throttle body?

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anyone?
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yuo are going to have to pioneer a lot of this yourself. u need a spare civic IM and TB so you can see the stuff from all angles while it is off your car. i am interseted in seeing this work. i saw supermex's first hand and his TB was stripped down to the bare minimum. you may have to go EMS so you can loose the sensors all together.
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jdm meets oem hmmmmm intercounty relations interesting, why not just drop the 305 in while your at it?
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Originally Posted by hwt101
jdm meets oem hmmmmm intercounty relations interesting, why not just drop the 305 in while your at it?
If you knew anything about what you were talking about you wouldn't have opened your mouth. Its fairly common to drop both mustang and GM throttles onto turbo Hondas. They're bigger.
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NO ****, you mean to tell me that a TB off a V8 is larger than that off a 4cylinderWOW, and i was just making a joke sorry you took it as more than that, i guess next time ill state that im joking first.
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A few things to consider.

First, you can't just drop sensors altogether with standalone. The evap, you can ditch, no problem. You still have to have the map, tps and idle air control which are the only three on the manifold that you HAVE to have.

Second, depending on how you set this up (being as I know nothing about a mustang tb in the first place), if you use the stock honda tps, you have to make sure it turns in the same direction as the butterfly so your voltage reads correctly. This is an issue for the d16 intake manifold with the tb as well. If you use the mustang tps (which would be the easier road) you will need standalone to calibrate your throttle range, your stock ecu won't recognize the voltage off of the mustang tps.

Map is an easy fix. Tap a hole in the manifold if you're going custom or weld a bung for it.

Idle air control is going to be a potentially similar issue as the tps. I'm not sure the mustang actually uses one or not but if it does, you can calibrate it with the ems. If not, you can run block off plates and use adapter fittings (like I did) and relocate the valve to a remote spot.
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Originally Posted by andyman97
A few things to consider.

First, you can't just drop sensors altogether with standalone. The evap, you can ditch, no problem. You still have to have the map, tps and idle air control which are the only three on the manifold that you HAVE to have.

Second, depending on how you set this up (being as I know nothing about a mustang tb in the first place), if you use the stock honda tps, you have to make sure it turns in the same direction as the butterfly so your voltage reads correctly. This is an issue for the d16 intake manifold with the tb as well. If you use the mustang tps (which would be the easier road) you will need standalone to calibrate your throttle range, your stock ecu won't recognize the voltage off of the mustang tps.

Map is an easy fix. Tap a hole in the manifold if you're going custom or weld a bung for it.

Idle air control is going to be a potentially similar issue as the tps. I'm not sure the mustang actually uses one or not but if it does, you can calibrate it with the ems. If not, you can run block off plates and use adapter fittings (like I did) and relocate the valve to a remote spot.

did u use ur stock throttle body. I am going N/A do u think this will make me more power?I know it will but how much more?
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even if you have a 60mm tb if the intake manifold is not made bigger then your just taking a bigger amoutn of air and shoving it into a small hole. An air system is only as big as its smallest port, so to speak. correct me if im wrong on this.
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supermex please help us man
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supermex please help us man
I just PM'd you
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Originally Posted by supermex
I just PM'd you
thanks for the good info man
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i hear i will need one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-M...ayphotohosting
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supermex should just write a DIY
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supermex is going to be helping me just waiting to hear back from him
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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
supermex should just write a DIY
If I do I'll have to wait till I get my new EL manifold so I can take the head off and take pics of all the steps done.

I'm mega busy at work now so it will have to wait.
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update just purchased a few parts off supermex and he is going to help me + 1 for him and BUY PARTS FROM SUPERMEX GREAT GUY TO DEAL WITH
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Why put a large TB on the boost side of the intake? I'd keep it on the smaller side so you don't have more volume to fill before the motor.

What size is the stock TB?
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stock i believe is a 62 i just picked a mustang throttle body up I got a 75mm

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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
stock i believe is a 62 i just picked a mustang throttle body up I got a 70mm
62mm is plenty big enough...

I still have my stock 65mm on my SHO and here is the power it put down.



If it were pre-boost (vacuum side), I'd say run a bigger TB, but not post-boost. My friend is putting down 520whp with the same TB as me.

I vote for keeping the stock TB as it will support WAY more power than you're ever likely to make from that Civic motor.
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so what are u saying keep the smaller if i am going all motor
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No, I'm saying to keep the smaller if you're boosting before the TB. If NA, the larger one will free restriction, however, on this car, it's moot.
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thanks for the info
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