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i have a intake header cat exhaust and a vafc2, i have type s injecters crower stage 2 cam and the valve springs and retainers on the way... my question would be has anyone sprayed on the stage 2 if so how big of a shot did you use... what kit.. did you have to boost the fuel pressure or change to a returned fuel system... any 1 with dyno #s or track times and what your over all experience with the cam and nitrous was... and if any1 has a cam gear for sale pm me

 
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I would ditch the vafc and get emanage.. Only because you might need to do some timing adjustment with spray and new cam... For a better tune a return fuel system is needed, with an upgraded pump.

 
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there's probably not to many members with stage 2 cam that spray

 
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You should be running in the 13's with about 200 whp with a 75 shot and good tune

 
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Thats cool! Im dong the same thing!

But I dont think im gona spray! (I dont want to buy EMS or Emang)

I'll tune my cam with my vafc2 though!

We will see what hapens!

 
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talk to djmota he has that same set up and sprays i think he made like 188whp and 189wtq and 133whp N/a here is the thread

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...99#post3800899

 
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02 black civic i am going to tune mine with my vafc and a cam gear im getting the injectors cam and s&r's by the end of the week and im gunna install on friday or saturday the way i figure it is i tuned a supercharged ls vtec with 11.5 compression running on 3 cyl with skunk 2 stage two cams with a vtec controller i think i can manage my car but i will let you know how it all works out if everything goes good this weekend i will have enough money for the n2o and maybe a dyno pull next week dont worry ill post numbers i think i can make some decent numbers just from the things ive already done i can feel a serious difference i went to the track stock when i first got the car and ran a 16.6s all day so i am hoping now after everything when i am done tuning i will break 14s and if any1 is selling a nitrous set up pm me

 
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You will run 14's with nitrous.

You more then likely won't run in the 14's unless you have nitrous/turbo/swap.

 
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is your parts list up to date scansel? im not bagging on you but you hit a 14.1 with out the cam shouldnt i hit 13s with the cam spraying?

 
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Yeah I think you should hit 13's with the cam, I was just saying when you have just nitrous, you can hit 14's no problem.

I dont' have a cam or any internals or tuning of anykind. Just I/H/E and NAWZ

 
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nice im ready actually ive been ready

 
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i dont think anyone has hit a 13 yet even with the stg2 cam and nitrous so youll be the first as far as i know. you are going to run into idle problems tuning with the vafc. as i stated before talk to djmota he has the same set up as you and the link i posted shows his dyno pulls

 
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most of the stuff you are asking for can be found in my pics and profile. vafc2 will not be able to control the type s injectors. Stock injectors will be fine for your set up. I am also assuming that you are getting a wet kit. Most members can get super low 14's with just a 75 shot and bolt ons. with the cam and a 75 shot I think 13's should possible. my fuel pressure and system are stock and my af ratios are safe. I have only ran a 50 shot at the track so far, but my dyno was on a 75 shot. Once they open my local track I plan on hitting 13's with just a 65 shot. Look into a race header or test pipe to get rid of your cat. Also if you are planning on going to a 75 shot you might want to start saving for a clutch. The stock one will hold for a while but will slip sooner or later. enjoy

 
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Yeah I have a clutch laying in my room waiting until the stock one takes a poop on me.

I think we should all be able to hit 13's this summer for sure.

 
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Already got my 4 puck guys.

I didnt plan on changing my stock fuel system.

I dont mind idle issues.

I'd LOVE to see 13's. If you break 13's with "naws" I'll spray for shur!!!

Thanks family...

His setup is my platform already...

 
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i tuned 370 injectors with the vtec controller and i know people tuning 550s too i wont know until i get started which hopefully that will be soon im looking into a clutch and fly wheel already and the right kit im thinking venom but i might go with nos i already have the 2 piece header 4-1 then i have a straight through test pipe and a cat back so i think i am good on the exhaust side i was thinking about a p&p job but i think honda does for the most part a good job in there head designs we will see though

and i got the injectors pretty much free so they cant hurt im looking into the emanage because id like to tune my timing and im hunting for a way to raise the rev limiter

 
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I head the 550's will work with the VAFC also.

Heard that from Edie at "truehonda"

 
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when are you getting your cam?

 
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Dec 06 or Jan 07...

 
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emanage wont allow you to rasie the rev limiter. and vafc's wont allow you to reduce fuel just add it

 
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You can reduce fuel^^^ with a VAFC2

 
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the only piggy back that will control type s injectors on a na 7th gen is emanage. Also I think you will get a better tune for that cam on emanage.
the only way to raise the rev limiter on a 7th gen is with aem ems.
Sounds like you on te right track.

 
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EMS would be a dream!

But if I ever go that far with this car, turbo EMS would be the path I take…

Sadly im a starving college student! Cash is an issue!

 
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i agree ems would be amazing because im going to need the higher rev to get all my power but i dont see 1400 $ going to that anytime soon 02 you dynod 133 with what mods

 
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Wo...

I never sayed I dynod 133...

I have 115 WHP/ 113WTQ

I/H/E, 4puck, 8lbs flywheel, VAFC2 tuned!

 
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mods are in my profile

 
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o thats right mota did my fault

where do you get a wide band and does it really help the tuning?

 
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Yes! With a wide band your able to "perfect" air/fuel mixture!

 
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where could i find it?

 
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Dezod, Where else...

LINK:http://dezod.com/cat_wideband.cfm

I'm getting this one
http://dezod.com/pd_aem_6.cfm