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ok, so we know we can't do it. but the K-series can. why? cause the memory is reflashable. storage. standalone built in. so why can't we do this? maybe we can. im not saying i know how, but i had an idea when i was talkin to turboengnr. you could add storage to the ECU.
like gut a flash drive, ghetto rig it to the ECU, then with some reverse engineering, you could hav something. it sounds crazy, but its an idea. lets talk about it.

 
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I don't know ... hondata tried it and said it was too hard ...

 
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wow. maybe they will change their minds...

 
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actually they said no.

then were reluctant and gave it a go.

and then they said no again.

here we go ... found the thread: http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...hlight=hondata

 
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ok, i think the prob is they keep trying to base it off the damn k20 ecu. if they did it from scratch it would work...

 
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I think Hondata's point was its not cost effective for them to make something for the d17 cause e-manage is good enough for minor mods and anyone that wants more goes full standalone AEM EMS.

 
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just get an AEM EMS if you want to tune your car lol.. I know it sucks but hey, its that or a k-swap and a k-pro? lol. till then youll hve to run an Emanager or something. Life in the D17 world sucked. But i could see where you were wanting to go with this. And although it may be possible, it would be a pain in the as$ to implement. You might as well find a way to rig a laptop to replace your ECU and controll your car using Serial ports/usb lol.

 
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yeah. except that EMS is like $1500. FTS.

 
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how much would hondata be then? 800-1000? its still pretty close.

 
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exactly. EMS runs 2k+ new. give me a break. id rather pay 900 for a boosted reflash setup. ill email AEM about this or something. ill give hondata a try too.

well, actually, you can do that with the EMS. riggin your laptop is NOT the hard part. its gettin software to communicate WITH the ECU. then its makein the D17 ecu have a built in memory to hold the settings even if the car battery dies. but you know what? the life of the d17 is just starting.

 
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He means using the pc as engine managment. You could theoretically use a mac, but that is very unrealistic for any of us. You would basically have to be a super genius, some people can program anything. I never got into computers because I just could never see myself looking through and writing a bunch of code. A lot of people think that will be the wave of the future. One computer to control everything from email to your A/C to your mp3s to your fuel trims. I bet you will be able to watch 600 channels on your phone way before this happens though.

You could "reflash" the d17 too, if you can manipulate it, kinda like what a piggy back does, but even further. That is like saying you can build one because you know how. If you could do this you would be making lots of money and would probably not waste time on a d17 ecu, basically it is not worth it. Unless you have a close friend who is a wiz, you are stuck with what the market offers. Maybe you can use your social capital to find the human capital you need har har.

 
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does this really need to be covered again? So many companies’s tried and failed. We just have to come to the conclusion that, that’s that. You think you can do it, then go for it more power to you. other wise than that this is going to go no where, ill leave it open for now.

 
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well i thought only hondata tried it. i mean they didn't just get the k series ecu going after ONE try. it took them 6 years to do the s2k ecu. im gonna go find a d17a2 ecu and see what i can do with it. how much do they run for? like junkyard or something.

 
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Dude by the time you do that you will have spent enough money and time to go buy the ems. You could use your spare time in betters ways, is all Im trying to say. But to each his own.
You wouldn't by any chance know how to hack an xbox 360? Cause a buddy of mine has his original xbox uploaded with a program that allows you do burn games right onto the hardrive as well as other stuff. I used to not care, but I think it would be sweet on the 360. I dunno, I might do some research if I get the time.

 
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its kinda against the law to explain that one...

 
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you have to remember the newer the car gets the harder it is to break the ecu. also hondata tried more then one time with our ecu they where able to reflash it but it wasnt worth it for the gain they got out of it.

 
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well ill let you guys know. im gonna junkyard a A2 ecu and see if i can do something myself. and it is my choice, even though some think its a waste of time...

 
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cool ^^^ isnt there a huge waiting list for 360, i guess ur lucky

 
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i don't have a 360. they are not worthy.

 
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hey maybe you could use that A2 ecu in a gaming system when your done to save car settings for racing games

 
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I feel this thread is a wast of time

No offence IBTL

 
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your funny^^^^ hahaha. first i have to figure out how to connect it to my pc. ive never seen a A2 ecu. either something is going into it or my comp.

 
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i dont have time for games, but i played the call of duty 2, on 360. i was amazed... sweeet games. i played the demo on pc

 
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Just out of curiosity, would you even know where to begin besides taking apart the ecu?

 
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actually, from what I've read, the reason why Hondata is able to mess around with the 06 S2000 ecus is because Honda changed their ecus. The previous year's S2k ecus could not be cracked

 
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i don't plan to take it apart. well not all the way. i will have alot of things to look up. like what wire leads into what comin out of the ecu.

 
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.....lock this bitch. ill start a new one after i get the ECU....

 
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