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how fast is the em2 k20a3 swap??

i've been fkn searching for it and couldnt find crap


does anybody with the swap have time slips?? if so, list all mods if possible..and the time slip!

i found xproductionz's whack k20 (haha) swap dyno. max hp/tq @ 201/163 respectively i'm just wondering what everybody is getting on the track.
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i've looked several times for the k20a3 as well.... couldn't find anything. But there's a guy with a k20a in toronto who hits mid to hi 13s. I"m not sure wut a k20a2 or k20a3 would do on the track.
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Originally Posted by 02cvcEX
i've been fkn searching for it and couldnt find crap


does anybody with the swap have time slips?? if so, list all mods if possible..and the time slip!

i found xproductionz's whack k20 (haha) swap dyno. max hp/tq @ 201/163 respectively i'm just wondering what everybody is getting on the track.
thats a rough estimate of a stock k20 with i/h/e possibly now a SC or turbo kit can raise that drastically but a typical amount of power is atleast 200 HP i'll see if I can find some others
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Its gonna run whatever an Si runs maybe a little quicker from less weight.
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drivetofast has an k20A3 with a JRSC on it.

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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Its gonna run whatever an Si runs maybe a little quicker from less weight.
tHis is gonna be your best bet to get an idea. go to ephatch.com and check out thier timeslips.
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Originally Posted by boilmaker1
Its gonna run whatever an Si runs maybe a little quicker from less weight.
yea... i was already assuming it's going to be faster being that our em2s are like 400lbs lighter. those ep3s are like tanks compared to previous hatchbacks

i'm trying to look for a n/a k20a3 swap .. but time slips from forced induction swaps would be cool

i think there's a guy in las vegas w/ an em2 k20A swap that hits like mid 12s (not sure if it's n/a or not)
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k20a3's aren't that fast ... it's only gonna be maybe .2-.3 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile than the ephatches
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Originally Posted by 02cvcEX
yea... i was already assuming it's going to be faster being that our em2s are like 400lbs lighter. those ep3s are like tanks compared to previous hatchbacks

i'm trying to look for a n/a k20a3 swap .. but time slips from forced induction swaps would be cool

i think there's a guy in las vegas w/ an em2 k20A swap that hits like mid 12s (not sure if it's n/a or not)
A K20A3 swap can run low 14's with a DC race header, Hondata and a Fidanza flywheel, ITR LSD. I know because I have one. I dyno'ed at 160 whp and 133 wtq (ON STOCK INTAKE, EXHAUST) also don't get a k20a I had so many wiring problems with mine I returned it and got a k20a3. My k20a3 had only 7k miles on it and it was only $1900 (for engine, Tranny, ecu, axles, sub frame, wiring harness, everything) my engine dyno'ed the same numbers as a type-s (he had I/E) and smoked a GSR that had (I/H/E) also I dyno'ed 19 whp more then my d17 t25 turbo!
- A N/A K20 is a 1000000x more reliable then a Turbo d17
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turbo k20 swap (assuming motor type a2) using 17" with r-compound 205s

low-boost 365 hp is puttin down a 13.2 second quartermile @ 105 mph

high boost 455 hp is 13.0 @ 117 mph

they also made references to 15" dunlop inferno drag radials for the car's high boost dynorun, but i think they used the toyo ra1 on 17x7" during testing & number aquisition

i think the main question with our riced vics is whether we can put it to the ground. the vic aint no indy car but at the same time if you dump 20k into a turbo'd k20 race engine you'd still be runnin 13s.

real speed is AWD or RWD. if there we a killer AWD gearbox available for the k20 motor then i'd think about dumping a swap in. maybe special order from europe if available there?
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reference article:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...hassportcivic/
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Originally Posted by caorndorff
A K20A3 swap can run low 14's with a DC race header, Hondata and a Fidanza flywheel, ITR LSD. I know because I have one.
time slips?

I have trouble believing this.

drivetofast with a 5psi s/c k20a3 ran a 15.3 with a 2.4 60' time.

there's no way you can run low 14's with lsd, flywheel, dcrh and hondata with a k20a3. 160whp is not nearly enough for a low 14 second run ... you have to be trapping about 98 mph with a perfect launch to run a low 14.

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**** that... i'd get a mid 13 if i had traction
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**** that... i'd get a mid 13 if i had traction
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I have a K20a3 swap w/ AEM CAI, Apexi World Sport Cat-back, DC Race header, K100, Spoon TB. And easily pull away from GSR w/ I/e/h/ JE intake manifold, ITR cams, and chipped ecu. like i win by car and half.
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with good suspension, slicks and bolt-ons u should do fine for a3 swap. Btw hondaluver didnt u run at the track with slicks?
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yea, i still didn't get traction. i neeeded bigger slicks and i need LSD! but i was done with this. read my sig... im going to get LSD and build my motor. then toss on a full race turbo kit
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Originally Posted by allmotor
with good suspension, slicks and bolt-ons u should do fine for a3 swap. Btw hondaluver didnt u run at the track with slicks?

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thank you ****... i mean, sick cycle.

i run 12 sec quartermiles with my honda vtx1800 motorcycle all day long on the strip. there is NO way a k20a-anything naturally aspirated would run down the track in just more than two additional seconds than my bike as claimed by caorndorff. i'll bet he's doin around 16 seconds on 169 hp at best.

got timeslips caorndorff?
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Originally Posted by CivicSF
thank you ****... i mean, sick cycle.

i run 12 sec quartermiles with my honda vtx1800 motorcycle all day long on the strip. there is NO way a k20a-anything naturally aspirated would run down the track in just more than two additional seconds than my bike as claimed by caorndorff. i'll bet he's doin around 16 seconds on 169 hp at best.

got timeslips caorndorff?
timeslips don't mean anything to me... i have a 12 second time slip sitting in my glove compartment from a year ago... wasn't from my car... i can show people all day long that my turbo'd civic ran a 12 second 1/4 mile....

it's all about the video or pictures...

you're right.. theres no possible way a k20a3 with bolt-on's will run a low 14 second 1/4 mile...
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Originally Posted by iamboo
timeslips don't mean anything to me... i have a 12 second time slip sitting in my glove compartment from a year ago... wasn't from my car... i can show people all day long that my turbo'd civic ran a 12 second 1/4 mile....

it's all about the video or pictures...

you're right.. theres no possible way a k20a3 with bolt-on's will run a low 14 second 1/4 mile...



well when my track opens here in April I will show you a K20a3 with I/e/rch/ k100 and Spoon TB can pull low 14's.
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Originally Posted by ImportRacer2123
well when my track opens here in April I will show you a K20a3 with I/e/rch/ k100 and Spoon TB can pull low 14's.
http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83615

there is an example of a time from a great driver. 14.7 with i/rh/e. <-- fastest n/a non-hondata ep3 time.

since you're in a civic, you'll shave maybe .2 seconds off ... and k100 and spoon throttle body isn't going to make THAT much of a difference.

since the k20a3 head doesn't flow that well, the spoon throttle body is gonna hurt you instead of help you.
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hey sick can u paste the critical info from that EPHATCH page into a reply here? don't have a password for that site.

looking for the engine info and tires and such.

thanks
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quoted from ephatch:

finally got the 14.7, 4 of em actually. all at the beginning of the night. i really think i could have done slightly better, if my 2nd gear synchros didnt crap out on me halfway through.

mods are: intake/ race header/ exhaust/ es motor mounts/ removed spare and rear seats/ all-season potenzas on stock 15's

r/t .395
60' 2.264
1/8 9.501
1/4 14.729
mph 93.54


on my 1st run of the night, i cut a 2.19 60ft! it would have been a sick run had i not short shifted into 2nd, and bounced off the rev limiter into 3rd. was a 14.8 if that gives you any idea...

mr 14.7 himself (papituyo) was there as well, passing the torch, so to speak
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Originally Posted by CivicSF
thank you ****... i mean, sick cycle.

i run 12 sec quartermiles with my honda vtx1800 motorcycle all day long on the strip. there is NO way a k20a-anything naturally aspirated would run down the track in just more than two additional seconds than my bike as claimed by caorndorff. i'll bet he's doin around 16 seconds on 169 hp at best.

got timeslips caorndorff?
I think I've found a winner for stupidest post of the month. Go read some info before you make stupid remarks again, or it may be your last.

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I think I've found a winner for stupidest post of the month. Go read some info before you make stupid remarks again, or it may be your last.
care to explain how he has the stupidest post of the month?
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Read this...

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=236

Yeah you have to sign up but it seems you could use some knowledge so do yourself a favor and register. That car ran 9 seconds.... pretty fast for N/A, huh?
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
Read this...

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=236

Yeah yopu have to sign up but it seems you could use some knowledge so do yourself a favor and register. That car ran 9 seconds.... pretty fast for N/A, huh?


that is shawn hillier's car. he is the driver of the skunk2 9 second car ... which is a fully built 2.5L k24/k20.

the guy in those pics is his own personal drool machine ;P ... k20a eg hatch.. which put down 215 whp with i/h/e/kpro on a 100 degree day.

however, 12 second k20a hatches with only boltons is not unheardof either
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