TheSmuggler

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^^Yes, I know, which is why I posted it. I was incorrect on it running nines, I saw a slip for about 11's.


That's why. At my strip I've seen plenty of k series swaps that are N/A run 11's. A group called AllVersion by me has quite a few.

Sick Cycle

I agree. there are some crazy n/a eg's out there running 11's ... there are loads of them on k20a.org.

10 second n/a K20a Insight ... that one is interesting as well.

TheSmuggler

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Hmmm yes.

ImportRacer2123

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well im going to have the intake manifold port matched to the Throttle Body so hopefully it should flow better.

CivicSF

right... i make sure and staple that one to my forehead.

care to actually back up your smack with fact?

CivicSF

are any of those supposed 11 sec times using a3 motors? i doubt it.

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

Here you go. LSD

At the track the car was just over 2450lbs with 1/3 to 1/2 tank of gas

Sick Cycle

hmm. what kind of tires did you use?

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

BF Goodrich g-force t/a KD. And ITR LSD

EM2typeflex

iTrader: (18)

k20a3 is a good start to get into the k-series scene. I've heard of people putting down 400hp with a turbo on their stock block a3. Let me tell you, I'd definately do a k20a3 swap over a turbo, just to get into the k-series scense. Once you got that k-series block into your car, everything is expandable on that motor.

EM2typeflex

iTrader: (18)

Sick Cycle:
Do you have a k-series motor to be giving information the way you are?

Sick Cycle

caornforff: if you're not making it up, then those are some very, very, very impressive 60 foot times with those tires.

just a warning though ... itr lsd has been known to shatter with only 225-ish whp and a very hard launch (slicks).

em2type: yes ... I have a k20a. and I am a very old member. hint enough?

jaredn

ohh what now... i think i hear crickets..

K20me

iTrader: (9)

I can vouch for that K20a in his car.

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

I think G-forces are great in the 1320, aside from slicks. I'm not too worried about killing my LSD at 160whp. But fair warning to anyone doing a k swap. Hasport used to say that you could run Integra GS-R axles. But no you cannot. I broke 2-passenger side axles within one month and one lead to me breaking my stock open diff.

Sick Cycle: if you think my times are impressive then you should look at aRz's times on ivtec.com he runs a 14.2 on an n/a k20a3 with an open diff, and street tires!!!

http://www.i-vtec.net/forums/showthread.php?t=673

I included a Pic of one of my broken axel CV's, it snaped the shaft clean in half. Sick Cycle if you look in the backround you can see your avitar to show that it is real, because everyone is descrediting my proof

Sick Cycle

he has a lot more done to his motor though. kpro, img, clutch, fly, bored tb, injectors, etc.

since you didn't list any of that, I'm ASSUMING that you don't have any of that done. correct? no img, lightened fly, etc?

btw, what was your tire pressure and ambient temps on the run? .. just curious.

your dyno numbers might have been low. it must have been fvcking *** cold when you ran ... most bolton k20a3's run around high 14's/low 15's.

btw: why does your profile say K20A?

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

I have a Fidanza Flywheel i said that in my first post. Also i have a Hondata IMG and some other stuff. who cares about the IMG i never noticed a temp diff. waste of money if you ask me

Here is my list of parts:
2003 honda civic LX. with a k20a3

-Hondata k100
-Hondata IMG
-Fidanza Flywheel
-OEM Type-R LSD
-OEM Type-R Intake Box (PRC) Comptech Filter
-OEM Type-S Clutch
-OEM Type-S Exhaust
-OEM Type-S Oil Pump
-OEM Type-S Fuel Pump
-DC Sport Race header
-Hasport MM ESK1
-Hasport ESKAX Stage 2 Axles
-Revo Technical Short throw shifter
-Aluminum Shifter Bushings
-No A/C
-No P/S
-Coolant bypass

With a kinda Full tank and full interior the car weighs (no spare) 2452Lbs

-Tein Springs
-OEM Type-S Swaybar Front
-OEM ITR Swaybar rear
-OEM Civic Si wheels
-OEM Civic Si Seats
-OEM Civic Si Floor mats
-OEM JDM Valve Cover
-OEM JDM Dip Stick
-OEM JDM ITR Side markers
-OEM JDM Mirrors
-OEM JDM Tail lights

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

Because i use to have one, but i gave up on it because it had so many problems. i returned it and picked up a a3 for alot alot alot less.

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

I said that in my first post:

EM2typeflex

iTrader: (18)

What you're gonna be hearing is me and yo mamma soon enough.

EM2typeflex

iTrader: (18)

The only person I can think of is dc5@em2, if you're him, why would you come on as another member? If you're not him, then how are you a very old member if you just joined in 05?

EM2typeflex

iTrader: (18)

I was asking if you knew k-series because earlier you said the spoon tb wouldn't see any gains because of the flow on an a3 head. Here you included that arz is hitting 14's because of his mods which you included a bored tb.

Sick Cycle

iirc, the spoon tb is 70mm inlet diameter.

bored tb doesn't usually mean THAT much ... 70mm is quite a lot. iirc, the ep3/rsx tb is 60mm and the itr tb is 64mm.

for not having a good flowing head, you really don't need a 70mm tb ... if you had a k20a2 head on the other hand, then it might benefit you.

Sick Cycle

img does help ... before, my im would be blazing hot .. too hot to touch. now, after a drive (even a long one), I would touch my im and it would be as if I never turned it on. if you are not getting the same results, I suggest you invest in a cai to complement your img.

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

It's late fall / early winter so the last thing on my mind is heat. Besides I like to go for the OEM thing. If you look at my car you don't see a single aftermarket part yet it runs a lower 14. And it sounds stock.

FingerJ

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Can you say S-L-E-E-P-E-R!!!!!!

Sick Cycle

well, honestly with 160 whp, running a low 14 is still extreeeeemely difficult to swallow. 160whp is about 5whp shy of what a bone stock k20a2 puts out.

1.8 60' is also very hard to swallow with street tires. People usually get that kind of time with slicks.

You must have had Jesus in the car with you when you drove or something.

you aren't gutted? (haha I know I'm asking a lot of questions... but this is beyond belief).

with my k20a and poor track conditions, I hit a 14.315 with my k20a ... I also managed to get a nice, slow 2.422 60' time. Oh well ... I'm also eligible to using the 'first time at the track' excuse ;P

EM2typeflex

iTrader: (18)

ep3's and rsx-s's got a 64mm tb. ITR is short 2mm of the spoon's 70mm. I know, I just confirmed so a couple of days ago.

C Orndorff

iTrader: (16)

I have nothing in my trunk (i.e. no spare, jack, tools, carpet, wood whatever) I removed all the tar from my car, and have a shitty Carbon fiber hood. but other then that i have a full interior. Im thinking of ripping out the back seat but i have a 4 door so it would look kinda dumb.

Do you have a DX LX or EX? ES or EM? if ES is it a 1 or a 2. What did you weigh in at the track?

The a3 is a great low end motor. Even aRz pulled a great 60' with a open diff and street tires. on a 400lb heavyer car then me.

Hondata dynoed the k20a2 at 160whp stock

http://www.hondata.com/reflash_rsx.html

Also there are RSX-S's that pull out low 14's with only I/E remember they are 400lbs heavyer.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-RSX-Timeslip-2766.html

Sick Cycle

ah, interesting...

I have an 02 ex coupe. I haven't weighed my car ... I don't think the track I went to had a weigh scale ... I've only been once though. I have a cf hood, light battery (12 pounds), nothing in the trunk (except the battery) and a cf trunk ... but I still have all my tar haha.

hmm ... well most k20a2's that I've seen have dyno'ed at 165 whp bone stock ... but that's not a big deal. just from what I've seen.

hmm ... I definitely need to learn how to drive better then. My best trap speed was 99.6 on my 14.3 run ... with a better launch (and me not spinning 1st and part of 2nd), I could've probably had a high 13. Despite my poor times, I've maintained a 98-99 mph trap speed. It was also 80 degrees that day ... but enough with the excuses.

my first run, I ran a 15.3@99 mph ... when I launched, my 1st gear popped out

but since that run, I've also added a dc race header and some wider profile tires that grip better. upgraded from 215/40/17 gy f1 gs-d3's to 225/45/17 michelin pilot sport 2's.

hopefully come january, I will break 13's with ease.

oh yeah ... what was your tire pressure?