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In your opinion what is the hardest car to change an oil filter on?
these are my nominees for bastard engines so far....
1.late 90's (around 97-99) cavalier 2.2 behind the engine under the ECU next to the exhaust
2.Lexus IS300 sport wagon underside exiting exhaust and tucked under it
3.almost any new toyota or lexus with the factory filter and you have no tools...:-( just your hands
4. ANY DIESEL!!! with all that splashback
and since this is a HONDA Civic site I'd have to say of he honda's the worst are the new Ivtec's in the elements and the pilots where it is tucked up above the axle (which has more than once done what a 20 buck wax job would do to my arms)
these are my nominees for bastard engines so far....
1.late 90's (around 97-99) cavalier 2.2 behind the engine under the ECU next to the exhaust
2.Lexus IS300 sport wagon underside exiting exhaust and tucked under it
3.almost any new toyota or lexus with the factory filter and you have no tools...:-( just your hands
4. ANY DIESEL!!! with all that splashback
and since this is a HONDA Civic site I'd have to say of he honda's the worst are the new Ivtec's in the elements and the pilots where it is tucked up above the axle (which has more than once done what a 20 buck wax job would do to my arms)
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HAHAHA... I'm glad to see diesels made on the list... The hardest part about the diesel though is buying all the oil to put in it. I remember our old power stroke used 12 quarts of oil.
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
HAHAHA... I'm glad to see diesels made on the list... The hardest part about the diesel though is buy all the oil to put in it. I remember our old ower stroke used 12 quarts of oil.
hey has honda ever tried their hand at a diesel?
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Originally Posted by Shroomster
hey has honda ever tried their hand at a diesel?
Yeah, I believe they made deisel civic for the euro market. Not sure if they actually made the engine or just contracted it out to others though. If I remember right it was pretty good, got something like 50+ MPG.
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I jsut found a new filter to hate....the 86 nissan maxima....above the catalytic converter...reach over the axle shaft....like the damn thing is sitting in a pocket
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Yeah, I believe they made deisel civic for the euro market. Not sure if they actually made the engine or just contracted it out to others though. If I remember right it was pretty good, got something like 50+ MPG.
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fuken Volkswagens. The damn filter looks so easy to get to, but you have to pull the splash guard, move around the coolant return and the oil cooler lines to get it. Such a pain in the ***. I have scars on my forearms from trying to get that bastard out.
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Originally Posted by thefivespeeder
yea those toyota/lexus with the filter on the front of the block below the header suck
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Originally Posted by Pn0ybOiLiKehOy
some older buicks have the fliter above the front axle so u would either have to take the wheel off or just hella reach around and ****
actually you're referring to the 3800 motor...that crap fest of the gm family had the filter on the passenger side of the fron axle above the frame you can reach up through the v-shape and pull it off but yeah like ya said it is not fun .....
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Originally Posted by thefivespeeder
yea those toyota/lexus with the filter on the front of the block below the header suck
never did reply to this...get a kevlar burn sleeve and reach from the right side behind the exhaust and you get more leverage if you have a filter wrench hehe
all the 90's model 4 cylinder toyotas with the i think (4-efe engine?) are ghey to a point the baby tacoma's that look like mighty max's were stupid....
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ahh just realized another bad one...northstar engines circa 91-97 i think...with the filter up top and at an angle kinda slanted...like the volkswagens....
oooooh and the nissan pickup hardbody....less i already said it...thats a wheel well digger right there...
oooooh and the nissan pickup hardbody....less i already said it...thats a wheel well digger right there...
i hate oil changes in general......... so gay.
but yes the toyota camry (circa mid 90's) sux cus its under the mani.
trucks often suck and id say if i ever owned a car with one hard to get to, id buy the relocation kit and make it so its in my glove box....... lol
but yes the toyota camry (circa mid 90's) sux cus its under the mani.
trucks often suck and id say if i ever owned a car with one hard to get to, id buy the relocation kit and make it so its in my glove box....... lol
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on the other hand....the new toyota 4.0l v6 that's in the 4runner/tacoma/tundrav6 has the easiest to change....right on top

its right under that cover to the right of where the toyota logo is.

its right under that cover to the right of where the toyota logo is.
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I finally did my F150, it's right behond the front bumper. And since it sets so high, you don't need to jack it up, just bend down (not even lay down) and reach under the bumper and turn so nice
to bad the drian plug isn't so nice.
to bad the drian plug isn't so nice.
My 4Runner has that engine, and I must say that having the filter right on top is nice. I just did the first oil change to the tC and its also pretty easy. The filter is right between the pan and the front bumper on the passengers side.
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I finally did my F150, it's right behond the front bumper. And since it sets so high, you don't need to jack it up, just bend down (not even lay down) and reach under the bumper and turn so nice
to bad the drian plug isn't so nice. 
to bad the drian plug isn't so nice. 
it sucks if you have to do an engine flush too because it comes out like water and usually the drain pan is in the wrong position for it
I dunno what honda was thinking when they decided to put the filter there on most of their 4 bangers. Its the one main complaint I've always had. At least on 5th gen Civics you could reach it from the top.
The first time I changed the filter on my 01 I reached down there from the top and got my forearm stuck for 15 minutes. I had to call my bud on my cell phone to come over to help me out. He had to spray down my arm with white lithium greese to pull it out. I'm never gonna live that one down.
Dodge trucks are usually the easiest. Nothing in the way at all right at the front.
The first time I changed the filter on my 01 I reached down there from the top and got my forearm stuck for 15 minutes. I had to call my bud on my cell phone to come over to help me out. He had to spray down my arm with white lithium greese to pull it out. I'm never gonna live that one down.
Dodge trucks are usually the easiest. Nothing in the way at all right at the front.
Toyota Corollas with 4A/7A-FE engines. The Filters not that hard to get to, but its tucked behind the driver side corner of the exhaust mani heat shield. I burnt myself many times with my old corolla. The D17 Civics are in a bad spot just because oil drips all over everything.
Oh and old Porsche 911's (Mid 70's) are a pain. They also take a rediculous amount of oil and have to be drained from 2 different spots.
Oh and old Porsche 911's (Mid 70's) are a pain. They also take a rediculous amount of oil and have to be drained from 2 different spots.
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Anyone ever changed the oil on a Mazda MX3? That is a bitch to get too. It was on the block recessed about inches, stuck right up under the intake manifold. My hand could not get up there, no strap wrench could get up there. So, took it t mazda and they said that you have to take the IM off. What kind of bullshit?
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Originally Posted by black05civic
Anyone ever changed the oil on a Mazda MX3? That is a bitch to get too. It was on the block recessed about inches, stuck right up under the intake manifold. My hand could not get up there, no strap wrench could get up there. So, took it t mazda and they said that you have to take the IM off. What kind of bullshit?
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Originally Posted by black05civic
The 4cylinder man. I still got it. I use it as a fwd rally car out in the country where my grandparents live.
damn forgot about those mazdas...specially the same engine in the early 90's miata...and damn toyota and their Rear mount MR2
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