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Ok, I have pistons and rods, do you think it is worth the trouble sleeving? How much boost can I run with just pistons and rods? How much if I sleeve? Thanks!

 
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sleeving is def. a good investment. it will allow alot more boost, but our lack of fuel and tranny and axels will have to be adressed after. It's a good insurance policy for your investment. Would you want to go thru the trouble of having the pistons and rods installed only to crack a sleeve and chance having to buy new pistons and rods?

 
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^^I agree...just save up some money and definately sleeve it...my 91 DA ls-vtec is sleeved...its a very good feeling knowing i can go hard anytime without worrying about cracking a sleeve know what i mean...u wont regret it

 
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do it right the first time

sleeve it

 
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dont waste ur time tearing a motor apart and rebuilding with everything brand new and not finish the job by sleeving

 
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agreed with everyone else.......do it right the first time.

 
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alot of people on honda-tech have ran over 300 hp on d16's without sleeves so u could do it but if u got the mtr apart might as well invest in it

 
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I am trying the kms blockguard cheap way and a lot of people say its not worth it but so far i think its a good investment

 
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d16's and d17's are totally different. A d17 is a weaker block.

 
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You can get away with around 350 whp without sleeves. Anything close to or over 400, you should get sleeves. I haven't known of anyone with a d17 that cracked a sleeve from too much power.

 
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Lol there aren't many D17's making that many power period.

 
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I think our weak points are the tranny and the fuel system. we need a new rail to fit the right size injectors in there to support that kind of power!

 
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i agree... sleeving is good. but the D17 tranny is relatively weak even with an overhaul kit. plus you gotta consider if you want to up boost your stock head is going to need some work. P&P is pretty much a must as an econobox like this isnt designed for great air flow! get new cams, especially since crower finally delivered on the D17, and obviously springs, valves, and retainers. grab bigger injectors, like off an RSX-S or even bigger.
then you should be good to go.

 
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would the crank shaft have to be replaced...are there any complete kits for sleeving? :/

 
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Dont waste your money on sleeving it you can get in the 300hp with stock sleeves aslong as you have a GOOD tune on it. Its all about the tune whether or not things are gonna be reliable or not

 
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Where did you get that information?

I have spent hours on the phone with Darton. The only thing they saw that was weak on the block was the casting at the bottom of the cylinders. They said that if you were to keep the cylinders from walking (by use of a block guard), then you would be able to run "15-20 psi of boost" (this is not a "daily number", he said 15 daily, 20 track).

 
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You can go pretty high before having to touch the head. only think to be afraid of is valve float. There are no sleeving kits as of now but any machine shop could do it. I suggest either Benson or Darton sleeves. really tough to trust a local shop. I plan on having mine don next month. Then all I have to solve is the injector problem then im going to aim to break the 300whp mark

 
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Rebuild an engine for boost or racing and not doing slevees,
is like buying a house in Lousiana and not buying flood insurance.

 
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^^ or Florida for that matter..

 
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It can be done without sleeves.

But i sleeved my motor.

 
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i should have sleeved when i did my pistons/rods/headgasket, but i didnt have the $$ or time then. My motor is fine without the sleeves but it would have been a good investment

 
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It would be a good mod, also help for higher boost.