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A L C O H O L I C I just finished installing the kit... and damn! @13PSI I spun my tires on 3rd gear like i was on 1st and 2nd 
alcohol injection is awesome...
don't mind the roots under my arm
www.coolingmist.com single stage kit
1/3 ethanol 2/3 purified water
100PSI H2O Pump...
...i'm still waiting to get it tuned... anybody know a good dyno shop in cali? fuvk it... i'm driving to cali to get my car tuned...
alcohol injection is awesome...don't mind the roots under my arm
www.coolingmist.com single stage kit
1/3 ethanol 2/3 purified water
100PSI H2O Pump...
...i'm still waiting to get it tuned... anybody know a good dyno shop in cali? fuvk it... i'm driving to cali to get my car tuned...
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Rep Power: 0 but can you do 15PSI safely? and do you have 18's? kinda tires you have? eitherway for 250buckets, I love the upgrade and not worry detonation... next month would be my track time... hmmmm... 15PSI
see that last sentence??? 
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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
because i don't wanna get the EMANAGE but I'm saving for AEM EMS... this is just to get me through another year or two... 
good deal then
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Rep Power: 0 ^^^what kinda FMU you have on... did you get the EMANAGE? and what kinda turbo kit you have on your ride... looks like it's custom built... how much do you pay for dyno tuning?
I will drive to cali if they have a cheaper dyno shop... 
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Rep Power: 0 pynoster i talked to every couple of months lol, what happend about tuning here? silverstate seem to do good work.my kit just sits in the garage and collects dust.. to scared something will f up that and the car doesnt run right now..
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Suppressing Engine Knock. Water/alcohol injection works to suppress engine knock in several ways. First, the water (and alcohol) reduces the temperature of the compressed air. When the exhaust gases are expelled from the combustion chamber, the cylinder, piston, and valve surfaces are at a very high temperature. The water entering the cylinder with the compressed air will work to cool these surfaces and any hot spots which might exist. It is in these hot spots that predetonation would typically occur. As the air is compressed in the cylinder, the water serves to reduce air to fuel contact, reducing the likelihood of auto-detonation. Lastly, if any alcohol is used, it serves to increase the octane of the fuel.
Increasing Intake Air Density. As previously mentioned, the water serves to decrease the temperature of the charged air. Since water/alcohol injection presents no additional flow restriction, this reduction in temperature can only be accompanied by in increase in air density. Also, when the water cools the metal surfaces in the combustion chamber during the intake stroke, this allows more air to enter the cylinder - effectively increasing the volumetric efficiency of the engine.
--www.turbocalculator.com
Suppressing Engine Knock. Water/alcohol injection works to suppress engine knock in several ways. First, the water (and alcohol) reduces the temperature of the compressed air. When the exhaust gases are expelled from the combustion chamber, the cylinder, piston, and valve surfaces are at a very high temperature. The water entering the cylinder with the compressed air will work to cool these surfaces and any hot spots which might exist. It is in these hot spots that predetonation would typically occur. As the air is compressed in the cylinder, the water serves to reduce air to fuel contact, reducing the likelihood of auto-detonation. Lastly, if any alcohol is used, it serves to increase the octane of the fuel.
Increasing Intake Air Density. As previously mentioned, the water serves to decrease the temperature of the charged air. Since water/alcohol injection presents no additional flow restriction, this reduction in temperature can only be accompanied by in increase in air density. Also, when the water cools the metal surfaces in the combustion chamber during the intake stroke, this allows more air to enter the cylinder - effectively increasing the volumetric efficiency of the engine.
--www.turbocalculator.com
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Rep Power: 0 hey bro! wat up! how you doing? hey I have this one guy that wants a turbo kit... if you wanna sell yours... and also if you want to put your turbo together let me know I will be more than happy to help you out... I have an OBDII scanner, I'm off on Tuesday... let me know so I can check out your ride... 
I have an OBDII scanner, I'm off on Tuesday... let me know so I can check out your ride... Registered!!
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Rep Power: 0 yea for sure well the kit still is in the box brand spankin new..all upgrades i would like to sell but hell i want boost. well i work tuesday i could get off earlier but still wont be able to do anything till after 6 pm.. so let me kno.. they said it was something electrical and been in and out of honda so many times im done with it so let me kno..prolly goin to have to get a new motor or rebuild.hae to take a ride in ur car cause i have the money 2 spend so let me kno
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Rep Power: 0 yeah just make sure you have the ML, hose and clamps for the turbo... if you wanted to install it on your ride and what kinda FMU you have?
but for now... PM me your # so I can call you tomorrow about 7 I'll check out your ride and see what's going on... and if you know how to drive manual, i might let you take her for a spin
but for now... PM me your # so I can call you tomorrow about 7 I'll check out your ride and see what's going on... and if you know how to drive manual, i might let you take her for a spin
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Originally Posted by JetBlu01
just wondering...I'm assuming your internals ARENT stock? 
... with the alcohol injection, there's a 7thgenner who had theirs at 17PSI and never had any problems my max would be 13PSI... just to be on the safe side 
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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
but can you do 15PSI safely? and do you have 18's? kinda tires you have? eitherway for 250buckets, I love the upgrade and not worry detonation... next month would be my track time... hmmmm... 15PSI
at 15psi your stock injectors will not supply enough fuel.
anywayz, congrats on the install.
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Rep Power: 607 btw...........can that pump handle ethanol ?????? I know stock fuel pumps can't and they the ethanol will eat them right up.
How are u injecting the ethanol/water, did u install a pressure sensor ???
also........whose kit SF kit did u buy ???
How are u injecting the ethanol/water, did u install a pressure sensor ???
also........whose kit SF kit did u buy ???
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Rep Power: 0 ^^^ FIY---if you're NA yeah i agree... don't even bother... this is for Heavy Mods and Boost...
Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
more about Alcohol/Water Injection...
Suppressing Engine Knock. Water/alcohol injection works to suppress engine knock in several ways. First, the water (and alcohol) reduces the temperature of the compressed air. When the exhaust gases are expelled from the combustion chamber, the cylinder, piston, and valve surfaces are at a very high temperature. The water entering the cylinder with the compressed air will work to cool these surfaces and any hot spots which might exist. It is in these hot spots that predetonation would typically occur. As the air is compressed in the cylinder, the water serves to reduce air to fuel contact, reducing the likelihood of auto-detonation. Lastly, if any alcohol is used, it serves to increase the octane of the fuel.
Increasing Intake Air Density. As previously mentioned, the water serves to decrease the temperature of the charged air. Since water/alcohol injection presents no additional flow restriction, this reduction in temperature can only be accompanied by in increase in air density. Also, when the water cools the metal surfaces in the combustion chamber during the intake stroke, this allows more air to enter the cylinder - effectively increasing the volumetric efficiency of the engine.
--www.turbocalculator.com
Suppressing Engine Knock. Water/alcohol injection works to suppress engine knock in several ways. First, the water (and alcohol) reduces the temperature of the compressed air. When the exhaust gases are expelled from the combustion chamber, the cylinder, piston, and valve surfaces are at a very high temperature. The water entering the cylinder with the compressed air will work to cool these surfaces and any hot spots which might exist. It is in these hot spots that predetonation would typically occur. As the air is compressed in the cylinder, the water serves to reduce air to fuel contact, reducing the likelihood of auto-detonation. Lastly, if any alcohol is used, it serves to increase the octane of the fuel.
Increasing Intake Air Density. As previously mentioned, the water serves to decrease the temperature of the charged air. Since water/alcohol injection presents no additional flow restriction, this reduction in temperature can only be accompanied by in increase in air density. Also, when the water cools the metal surfaces in the combustion chamber during the intake stroke, this allows more air to enter the cylinder - effectively increasing the volumetric efficiency of the engine.
--www.turbocalculator.com
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Originally Posted by C2i0v0i1C
water injected into the engine. not a good idea to me, no matter what its mixed with.
ppl have been injecting pure water for yrs. In fact, water injection was used in WWII for the supercharged fighter planes.
Water injection is a cheap/safe way to increase power. Because of the increased combustion temps, ppl pull timing. On avg you lose 5 hp for every degree of timing pulled. So, say you pull 5 degrees, there you lose about 25hp. A properly tuned water injected engine will make alot of power while maintaining the stock timing. Water burns just like gasoline and in fact absorbs heat 4 times better than gasoline. This means that you can safely lean out your car for more hp.
There is nothing wrong with running a properly tuned water injected motor.
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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
^^^ FIY---if you're NA yeah i agree... don't even bother... this is for Heavy Mods and Boost...
yeah, stock isn't worth it...... but a modded n/a motor can benefit from water injection. Cars that have knock sensors retard timing when it senses detonation which can be from low octane fuel or being under a load. This will hurt your hp and actual hurts your fuel mileage. I've seen engines that were datalogged where the knock sensor actually pulled 12 degrees. While using water injection, you can cool the air intake and combustion chamber temps while keeping the stock timing for more hp.
