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Old Jul 16, 2004
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Any way to stop the seatbelt chime in an 04 EX

My buddies girlfriend has an 04 EX and she is wondering if there is any way to disable the chime that sounds like every ten minutes when you are not wearing your seatbelt? I know, she should be wearing her seatbelt at all times but try telling her that. Thanks for any help.
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seriously, i think the best way to disable the chime is to wear the seatbelt itself =)
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I have tried to convince her but, she still doesnt listen, hell she doesnt even listen to her boyfriend about wearing the seatbelt. He has told her horror stories from when he was a firefighter, she still doesnt always wear it.
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There is a way....find the chime and pull it. Tell her if she wants to do that she can figure it out herself. I don't think anyone here wants to contribute to her death.

Maybe one day she'll figure out that chime is actually important.
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Originally Posted by TeLLy
There is a way....find the chime and pull it. Tell her if she wants to do that she can figure it out herself. I don't think anyone here wants to contribute to her death.

Maybe one day she'll figure out that chime is actually important.

I hear you on that one, I was just asking for my friend. Couldnt say no to him.
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no seatbelt? ... man, hasn't she seen Xmen the movie?
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i think there's a slight misconception about he/she on this thread..............

anyway, wear the seatbelt, click-it-or-ticket, lol.
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Originally Posted by zen_master
i think there's a slight misconception about he/she on this thread..............

anyway, wear the seatbelt, click-it-or-ticket, lol.
Actually, reply number 4:

Originally Posted by targetpractice
I have tried to convince her but, she still doesnt listen, hell she doesnt even listen to her boyfriend about wearing the seatbelt. He has told her horror stories from when he was a firefighter, she still doesnt always wear it.


Here's a way:

1. Click the seatbelt before sitting down, then have a seat. This way, she is actually sitting with the seatbelt on her back. This will also make the seatbelt light not to come on.

2. Buy an extra seatbelt, cut the nylon and use the metal part to click it.

**Please follow your state law for wearing a safety belt**
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Originally Posted by 518
Actually, reply number 4:





Here's a way:

1. Click the seatbelt before sitting down, then have a seat. This way, she is actually sitting with the seatbelt on her back. This will also make the seatbelt light not to come on.

2. Buy an extra seatbelt, cut the nylon and use the metal part to click it.

**Please follow your state law for wearing a safety belt**
YEeeeesh. Please force them to wear their seatbelt. Too bad you can't mandate common sense. If you bypass the seatbelt sensor by any of the above methods, you'll also bypass the secondary safety of the SRS system. It uses the seatbelt sensor as a parameter to determine whether or not to deploy the airbag and at what velocity. The airbag may not deploy under low deceleration impacts when the seatbelt sensor determines the person is wearing the seatbelt. However, this impact may very well injure or kill the non-seatbelt-wearing occupant. So if you bypass the sensor by the above method, the airbag isn't going to do its job for those intent on not wearing their seatbelt.

For another pragmatic look at things consider a scenario where there is an accident which sets off the SRS airbag and the driver survives. The seatbelt pretensioner will also detonate if the sensor is bypassed. If you subsequently repair the vehicle, you'd have to replace the expensive pretensioner if you want the SRS light to go off. The pretensioner doesn't detonate if it doesn't detect the seatbelt buckled.
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Its better for the SRS does not to deploy in case of the accident when seatbelt is not being worn anyway.

Is the sensor parameter based on the nylon?

I think the sensor is based on the buckle. Why? When you pull on to the nylon, does the light comes off? NO.

When you click the buckle, does the light comes off? YES.

Having said that, the SRS will still deploy because the sensor detected that the occupant is wearing a seatbelt. Hence, there is no light on the dash. As soon as the metal on the buckle touches the metal inside the attachement with the release button, the system recognizes that the occupant has the seatbelt on.

But like I said, its better for the SRS not to deploy when the seatbelt is not being worn.

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Originally Posted by 518
Its better for the SRS not to deply in case of the accident when seatbelt is not being worn anyway.

Is the sensor parameter based on the nylon?

I think the sensor is based on the buckle. Why? When you pull on to the nylon, does the light comes off? NO.

When you click the buckle, does the light comes off? YES.

Having said that, the SRS will still deploy because the sensor detected that the occupant is wearing a seatbelt. Hence, there is no light on the dash. As soon as the metal on the buckle touches the metal inside the attachement with the release button, the system recognizes that the occupant has the seatbelt on.

But like I said, its better for the SRS not to deploy when the seatbelt is not being worn.
I think you and/or I am are misunderstanding something here. Yes the sensor is in the buckle. I never said it wasn't. Where does nylon have to do with anything?
The seatbelt pretensioner is part of the SRS system. The seatbelt pretensioner will not fire if the seatbelt is not buckled. This is done to minimize the cost of repair following a collision. The airbag is also part of the SRS system. Whether or not it fires depends on conditions such as crash severity AND seatbelt sensor condition. Airbags were originally designed to protect an unrestrained occupant. However, with the advent of research and really fast processors, the SRS processing unit can evaluate whether or not to fire the airbag based upon crash severity. It is more likely to fire the airbag to protect the occupant when the seatbelt isn't used in a low impact collision. Your statement it is better for the SRS to not deploy when the seatbelt isn't being worn seems to contradict all highway crash research to date. Bypassing the seatbelt by using a dummy buckle or sitting over a buckled seatbelt prevents the potentially life-saving airbag from doing its job as designed.
See article below.
http://www.intech-eng.com/article2.htm

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contradicts?

USING AIRBAGS ALONE WITHOUT SEATBELTS IS MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE SPINAL INJURY THAN USING AIRBAGS WITH SEATBELTS

Spinal Injury

Still contradicts with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)?
An unrestrained or improperly restrained occupant can be seriously injured or killed by a deploying air bag.
derived from http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...s03/page6.html

The seatbelt pretensioner will not fire if the seatbelt is not buckled.
I thought I said on the first post to buckle up first then sit on the the car. This way, the sensor detects that the buckled is inserted. If the seatbelt is buckled, then the pretensioner will fire. This is according to your statement.
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ok Another questions for you guys. What do you think putting a body kit and removing the factory foam and changing the dynamics of the front clip would do to the air bag sensors??
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Originally Posted by tacheon
Airbags were originally designed to protect an unrestrained occupant.
to continue on with that statement...

there are still some drawbacks. Originally, air bags were designed to restrain full-sized unrestrained adults in very severe frontal collisions. Thus, these supplemental restraints were required to inflate very rapidly and forcefully. The aggressive deployment of air bags has sometimes resulted in serious or fatal occupant injuries which would likely not have resulted had there been no airbag.
Another quote from the link you posted:
In Canada, five air bag induced fatalities have been documented in low severity crashes [Dalmotas, et al. "Second Generation Air Bag Systems..." CMRSC XI. May 1999.]. Since 1990, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has recorded 148 fatalities in the U.S. due to air bag deployments (86 children and 62 adults) [NHTSA. 1999.]. The fatally injured occupants in both countries consisted of short stature restrained female drivers, unrestrained or improperly restrained occupants, infants in rear facing infant seats, unrestrained child seats or children leaning forward prior to the air bag deployment.
It appears that the statement "air bags were designed to restrain full-sized unrestrained adults" is now proven ineffective due to fatalities caused by not having a seatbelt when Airbag is deployed.

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I have been looking at old data. I stand corrected. Apologies to 518. I think the bottom line here is wear your bloody seatbelt because SRS is Supplemental Restraint System.
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Originally Posted by targetpractice
ok Another questions for you guys. What do you think putting a body kit and removing the factory foam and changing the dynamics of the front clip would do to the air bag sensors??
What on earth exactly are you trying to do? It's not an intelligent system so it cannot determine seating position etc. So what it can/will do is anybody's guess.
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Originally Posted by tacheon
What on earth exactly are you trying to do? It's not an intelligent system so it cannot determine seating position etc. So what it can/will do is anybody's guess.

Dont look at me This is all for my best friends Girlfriend. Shes got the 04 and wants to do all this kinda stuff to it. I'm just the information getter person. I'm kinda regretting it now
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Originally Posted by targetpractice
ok Another questions for you guys. What do you think putting a body kit and removing the factory foam and changing the dynamics of the front clip would do to the air bag sensors??
Who knows if it's going to affect the sensors. The only way to find out is to do it. All I know is that we have tons of Honda lovers who installed a JDM front and still alive
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I somehow was under the impression he was going to pluck the foam out of his seat and attack the front clip with a file.
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Originally Posted by tacheon
I somehow was under the impression he was going to pluck the foam out of his seat and attack the front clip with a file.
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took the word

Originally Posted by zen_master
seriously, i think the best way to disable the chime is to wear the seatbelt itself =)
you took the words right out of my mouth..
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