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Old Jul 4, 2004
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Most expensive bottle of Sobe

I just had the most expensive bottle of Sobe last night. Went to the Shell station where all the local racers hang out to get some Sobe and see if my friends were there. Just after I walk out of the Shell the CSPD(Colorado Springs Police) shows up and tells everyone to leave because it is loitering unless you are making a purchase. Naturally I took the turn around at the mall like everybody else to get back on Academy Blvd(The main road) and go home. 3-4 Cops jump into the turn lane with everyone else and start pulling people over myself included. To make a long story short I got ticketed for having a modified exhaust even though I have the silencer installed. The ticket is $60 or I can go to city court to fight it on the 27th. I'm thinking I'll fight it. The officer did not measure my exhaust note with a db meter so he has no way of making a comparison against the factory muffler. Here's what the city statute states on exhaust.


10.22.204: EXHAUST SYSTEMS:

Every motor vehicle shall at all times be equipped with an adequate exhaust system in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, smoke or flame, and no person shall operate a motor vehicle within the City which is not so equipped, or is equipped with a muffler cutoff, bypass or similar device. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system that has been modified in a manner which amplifies or increases the noise emitted above that emitted by the exhaust system originally installed on the vehicle, and the original exhaust system shall comply with all the requirements of this section. (Ord. 98-248; Ord. 01-42)
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Old Jul 6, 2004
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fight the system!
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Old Jul 7, 2004
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find out what your local definition of "excessive or unusual noise" is.
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So it says your aftermarket one cannot be louder than stock. That's what you need to prove to get out of paying.
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Thats the same way the Youngsville, Louisiana law is (where I got my modded exhaust ticket)

1st you'll want to argue that no one has proven that your exhaust is louder than a stock civic exhaust. And the officers ears are not an acoustic measuring device so don't let them try to pass it off as it in court.

They cannot make you pay until they have proven that your exhaust is louder than stock.

So they either A) Drop it, or B) Prove its louder and continue on with the case.

so now that they've proven that your louder than stock you could argue that while you are infact louder than the whisper quite stock civic, you are below all local noise ordinances. It doesn't make sense to say that your exhaust has to be whisper quite while any other part of the car (bass, intake, turbo etc etc) can be as loud as your local noise ordinances allow.

And as you last resort you can argue that while you are louder than a stock civic you are still quitier than alot of the stock sports cars out there.
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Old Jul 11, 2004
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what kind of exhaust are u running? and is it extremely loud?

btw, i duno about all states, but CA law is 95 db.

Fight the ticket bro!
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Old Jul 15, 2004
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THATS SO MESSED UP...yeh man bring that ****er to court
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Old Jul 15, 2004
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95 db is seriously a joke. There are motorcyles that fart louder than that
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hahaah. tru. i nvr see ne of those bitches get pulled over n get a fix-it ticket for an illegal exhaust :P
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It was just the only ticket that the cop could give you at the time and he thinks you will just pay the ticket. I say go to court.
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shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system that has been modified in a manner which amplifies or increases the noise emitted above that emitted by the exhaust system originally installed on the vehicle
Modifying an exhaust is not to amplify the noise but to improve performance. This has been covered by SEMA in their effort to save the people who are unlawfully ticketed due to modifying their exhaust system. Just as long as your exhaust complies with the dB in your state, then you should win the court.



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95 db is seriously a joke. There are motorcyles that fart louder than that
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hahaah. tru. i nvr see ne of those bitches get pulled over n get a fix-it ticket for an illegal exhaust :P
Because the law exempts the motorcyles. If not, then lawnmowers will be required to have a muffler

as quoted:
They specify testing procedures for motor vehicle exhaust noise alone (as opposed to total vehicle noise). This procedure specifies a limit of 95 dB(A) measured 20 inches from the exhaust pipe outlet with the engine operating in neutral, typically at a speed of 3000-5000 rpm. (For comparison, a modern rotary lawn mower with a 5-horsepower Briggs & Stratton engine typically emits approximately 93 dB(A) at the same distance at full speed under no load.) It applies only to passenger vehicles. It does not apply to motorcycles or to vehicles over 6000 pounds gross weight.

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damn thats seriously g4y. didnt kno that -__=...

anywayz... its so time consuming n troublesome to go to court n deal with that **** just to get a ticket waved... how much would u even be saving?
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Old Jul 16, 2004
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Well unfortunately I work on the 27th and my boss has college at the same time as court so I won't be able to leave the office. Guess I have to pay the stupid ticket. And to make things even more crazy in this town the police are charging a $30 inprocessing fee if you get arrested and go to jail.
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dude best bet would be to pay it or change it. They can easily go outside and make you start your car and rev it and tell you that it is louder than stock.
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Old Jul 21, 2004
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Not if I got a ride to the courthouse.
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Originally Posted by streetglower
dude best bet would be to pay it or change it. They can easily go outside and make you start your car and rev it and tell you that it is louder than stock.
dude, they dont measure the dB while revving. Measurement of the dB shall be done while the vehicle is at idle.

It really helps when you know the law. You wont just give in to those ridiculous tickets.

3 speeding tickets : I won the case
1 carpool ticket: I won the case

All of which, without even going to the court.
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Take off your exhaust and redline it right in front of him. Hell probably go deaf then they cant prove a thing.
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yea man fight the system..... you dont see cops pullin over suped up mustangs and vettes for thier loud *** cars... personally i think its an import thing. i hate the po po
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Old Aug 4, 2004
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I've actually been told by my former boss who is a bike enthusiast that they pull over about 10 bikes(mostly Harleys) for every one car they get in this *#^$ed up city.
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Dude, take the money with you to court. Ask if you can appeal, if not pay the damn fine and leave. Just be nice about it. I put a header on my car from the I have 2.5" piping all the way to a straight through muffler with the baffle out. Never pulled over for it. My car is loud as f*@K, just watch for cops next time. and shift at 2000-2500 to keep it low around cops.
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this may be a stupid question... but, what is "sobe"?
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Originally Posted by vtecinEX7
this may be a stupid question... but, what is "sobe"?
Its a drink company, makes different types .. Sobe
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Originally Posted by vtecinEX7
this may be a stupid question... but, what is "sobe"?
Want to try a good drink? I it's called something like "RockStar Energy Drink" Other words say "Party Like a Rock Star" on the can. It comes in regular which is in a darker can, and diet, which is a white can. Man, drink one of these and like 30min. later you'll be trippin'. It's like drinking 10 cups of coffee it feels like! I usually get them at BP gas stations but they are very hard to find.

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Originally Posted by UltimateWarrior
Want to try a good drink? I it's called something like "RockStar Energy Drink" Other words say "Party Like a Rock Star" on the can. It comes in regular which is in a darker can, and diet, which is a white can. Man, drink one of these and like 30min. later you'll be trippin'. It's like drinking 10 cups of coffee it feels like! I usually get them at BP gas stations but they are very hard to find.


This was the stupidest post I think I have ever seen. A. way not on topic B. The thread was basically dead why bring it back to life because you want to make a comment on a tasty energy drink?
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Originally Posted by Master
This was the stupidest post I think I have ever seen. A. way not on topic B. The thread was basically dead why bring it back to life because you want to make a comment on a tasty energy drink?
Sheesh man, what's your issue? So what, it's an old post. From now on you are on my totally ignore list. So say what you want, you'll just be wasting your time. You must have a miserable life... I actually feel sorry for people like you.

Um, go get some help K?

Bye...Bye...
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Sheesh man, what's your issue? So what, it's an old post. From now on you are on my totally ignore list. So say what you want, you'll just be wasting your time. You must have a miserable life... I actually feel sorry for people like you.

Um, go get some help K?

Bye...Bye...
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Originally Posted by UltimateWarrior
Sheesh man, what's your issue? So what, it's an old post. From now on you are on my totally ignore list. So say what you want, you'll just be wasting your time. You must have a miserable life... I actually feel sorry for people like you.

Um, go get some help K?

Bye...Bye...
lol...no kidding, dude has some issues.

is there something wrong with reading old threads? so you were reading an old thread and decided to respond to it...whats the big deal? looks to me like someone needs to spend some time away from the msg boards lol
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Cops suck.
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