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The ERL MF2 extra injector controller.....

http://www.kcsaab.com/aquamist/website/cp/mf2/mf2.html

This is what the Max-rev guys are trying to sell with their kit - for an additional $330. They throw in the injector with it. They also state that they have had some customers, who have been happy with their kit. But of course, still no dyno numbers.

I'm rather sketchy about this MF2. It appears that it does the same thing that the E-manage does, but you don't have a computer to interface with.....

Anyone?

 
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That's actually comparable to the Haltech F5. It's a good setup IMO. It will work.

 
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Yeah but it seems that you must know what you are doing to "tune" your engine to the turbo - otherwise - kaboom! Am I right? Not saying its a bad solution, just appears not to be for the "weak of heart" crowd when it comes to tuning....

 
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I agree

 
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I called one of their distributors - KS Motorsports, here is what they have to say:


They don't have the D17 turbo kit on their website YET. However, next week it will be up - for a special promo price of $2550 for about a month (if I remember correctly).

This doesn't include the MF2 or the injectors - which they sell for $320 (MF2), and $175 (for 2 440cc injectors). All prices include ground shipping.

Total price $3045.

Not bad - but a little high, after you include everything you need!

Now, nothing personal to SFpower's kit - but I'm still not sold on the "fuel system" he has. There are not close up photos of the "maricle device" which is supposed to boost the fuel line pressure to provide more fuel. I believe in this case that it may work - however you quite possibly will be putting more wear and tear on the stock injectors, as they will be running higher duty cycles.

Yes, Catalyst's car is proof that the kit works - but as with all new things - only time will tell if it holds up.

With the KMS intake manifold, two injectors can be installed directly on the manifold, staggerd equidistant - providing the proper fuel without overworking the stock injectors.

 
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Our fuel kit does the same thing to the stock injectors as the FMU on the older style civics. It does not put any more stress on them than the FMU systems that almost every other turbo kit for the older style civics used.
I do have some close ups of the fuel system, so i will show them to you. This is the one installed on yourinmyw0rld's car.

 
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i also have over 4500 miles on my car with this turbo kit, and it is showing no signs of anything going wrong. Most of the miles have been with the boost set in between 6 and 8 psi.

 
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Cat-

Forgive me if I don't understand, as I don't have past experience with turbo kits. However, I'm still trying to figure some things out. If the fuel device essentially regulates the amount of fuel that the injectors get, how do the cylinders get enough fuel? I'm assuming that they will run at a higher duty cycle than stock to compensate for lack of fuel at higher boost? This is where the "extra injector " syndrome comes from in the other kits out there.....

Enlighten me if I'm wrong......

 
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The fuel kit on my car, increases the fuel pressure. It doesnt touch the duty cycle. The car runs completely stock until you hit boost. Then it increases the fuel pressure as the boost rises. By raising the fuel pressure, you are giving the cylinders more fuel with the stock duty cycles.

 
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What sort of feedback is used to the device to tell it to increase the fuel system PSI? Is it a sensor (TPS sensor?).....

 
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a vaccume line that pnumatically increases the fuel pressure by putting pressure on an internal boost reference diaphragm.

This is not an electronic device, it is completely pnumatic.

 
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Ah....."So I see" said the blind man to the deaf guy.....

 
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the system does work. never heard of the company but it is simpler than the other systems being offered.