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i read a topic here that the 7th gen civic wont handle a 100 shot NOS? cause it has a plastic intake manifold? a plastic intake manifold? is that true? if so..what can i do to fix this? good thing i read this cause i was planning a 150 shot.

 
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no man, a 100 shot will blow the welds on the intake!



no, but really, a 75shot is pushing it. most people recommend a 50. i am running 75 and its really noticeable. you should probably do more research into nitrous oxide before you put it on your car, however. because a 150 shot on a stock (internally) d17 is retarted.

 
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hehehe.. . yr saying that even with forged pistons nd rods it wont hadle the 100 shot because if the plastis intake?

 
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no i was making fun of f&f. if you upgraded your internals, you could run 100. i just really would not recommend it. i'd run a 75, like me, but your engine will live longer.

 
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i know man!

dude..where can i know more detaild info about my engine?

ok last stupid question.. so i aint true that the intakes of a 7th gen are plastic?

thanks!!!

 
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ok ok heres what im am planning to setup my 7th gen..

100 shot of NOS
forged pistons
eagle rods

currently i have..

aem cold air intake
custom headers, 2.5 piping, mufllers
V-afc(no use I know..just wnted it )

...thats about it. guys do you think it will hold up? anymore suggestion that i should get or parts that i should upgrade would be great! thanks!

 
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the intake manifold IS plastic...

the 100 shot is not a good idea... 75 is pushing it and like 75 said, a 50 shot is recommended.... usually people start from low increments like 35 shot and slowly move up.... 100 shot is dangerous especially if you've never used nitrous before.... even with the forged pistons and rods you'll still need more than that... the nitrous doesn't only endanger your rods and pistons.... don't do something you'll regret later...

 
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why the heck is it made PLASTIC!

ok ok..is there a way to get pass this? i mean..to still get my 100 shot? like can i get a better intake manifold that aint plastic? is there such thing as it?

and what do you mean by you still need more than that? what else do i need?

help dude..

 
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many many intake manifolds are plastic. Take the camaro Ls1 for example and they push more than 100 shot through theirs.

The trick to not destroying the manifold is not to have a backfire in the intake manifold.

3 possibilities of this occuring are:

you puddle the fuel causing it to explode in the manifold.

you run to much ignition

you don't run enough octane.

What other mods to run 100 shot? Well you can take your chances stock. You can build the motor/clutch etc.

Or you can be reasonable and run the recommend shot for your motor (50)

 
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is there a way to not have a backfire?

 
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people have made custom intake manifold for our cars by modifying other brands like focuz and i think venom and skunk2.... btw... whats up with you and your itch to squeeze 100 shot anyways?? what do you mainly use your car for??? i don't want to disapoint you but if you're looking to make a 10 second 7th gen civic.. it's not gonna happen unless you're prepared to spend oodles of green...

 
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there are ways to preventing it from happening... but that doesn't guarantee that it won't....

 
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i use it for everyday use. i want it to like have 200+ hp.

so i really cant do that huh. so what do you think i do to get it up there?
thanks man..

 
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well... turbo it... im not promising 200+ hp.... but it's a nice start...

 
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i was about to say that.

with out going turbo..what else? im aslo thinkin of regrinding my cams, what do you think? is it a good idea?

thanks again man..

 
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No, our cars respond horribly to mods other than nitrous and turbo.

Turbo is your best bet

 
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Purge the system is one way.

 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by detoX
[B]i use it for everyday use. i want it to like have 200+ hp.

Nitrous is not an everday thing, even when used correctly. It is not recomended for more than 15s. I would only push it that far if you are loosing and sometime you have to count your loses. If you want all the time upgrade then turbo or supercharge (even though there is no blower that i now of available) is the only way to go.
How I have a SCC mag that showed where honda got 170hp out of the D17 all motor although it didn't state how. I proably Port and Polished, with proper CPU mods to bump up the Hp.

 
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all i can say, is read the fuggin nitrous FAQ, and please dont pm me about my fuggin "NOS" setup. im so sick of people asking me dumbass questions about the Fast and the Furious bullshit.

 
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Evidently no one on here has owned a Civic previously? The D series is what is wrong with out cars. All D series engines have sucked, I think that is common knowledge.. I think instead of referencing to our cars we should reference to the D series. Because when you say our cars it makes 7thgens sound shity, and they are by far the most advanced Civic to date.

 
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Actually the d16 is one of the best cars to turbo....It responds to boost better and can hold more than any B-series stock. D series are not waht is wrong with our cars, it is the fuel system and lack of mods provided for our cars due to the fuel system...

 
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also about N20, here in ga (so i heard) its illegal to use N20 on the road...so u might wanna considere if you realy wanna use it for everyday use, especially on the road...plus u will have to get alot of nitrious.

 
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What? im not literally gonna use it evryday every single minute on the button dude, only when racing. and about it being illegal..dont worry about it its not that big a deal hear where im at.

k, thanks anyway guys..

 
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not to be a ****, but if you have to ask all these questions, its probably not a good idea to run nitrous at all. its good that youre asking and learning, but wait until youre more familiar with your car and nitrous in general before bolting it onto your car. once again not to be an a$$hole, but I can see you posting in a month about how you blew your engine or totaled your ride.

 
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wha? i posted no such thing.

and 75shot..i hope yr not referin to me cause i didnt pm u dude..

i have more questions guys..sorry im being so anoying. i dont have someone to ask it to.
anyway here it is..

lets say i have the greens..
what can i do to have the 100 shot or more? or do i really cant have it?
how do i prevent the backfire?

come on guys..i know you know this..

 
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if u have a lot of money to burn, drop a new engine

 
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i think 75shot was just telling you in advance not to PM him. youre kinda getting flamed because you keep calling it NOS, NOS is a brand by Holley, it means Nitrous Oxide Systems. it doesnt really bother me, but some people take stuff like that to heart. its good that youre asking questions, but like everyone is telling you, if you want to run nitrous start off with like a 35 or 50 shot, let your engine get used to it, and build your internals to run a larger shot. One of the problems with running more than a 75 shot is that there isnt a lot of companys making parts much more than bolt ons that are worth the money. If you REALLY must run such a large shot, like I said buy a nitrous kit, the Zex wet kit is really good, its smallest setting is a 55 shot. Run that for a while and then move to the 75. If your engine runs good with that buy a new manifold, pistons, etc., KMS supposedly makes a good manifold, and then move up to the 100 shot. Zex uses jets manufactured by NOS, so you could snag some of the larger shots from them since the Zex kit only goes up to 75. That should answer all your questions and then some.

-Joey

 
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thanks wing..

 
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no problem, glad to help

 
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whats the thing with 7thgen having a returnless fuels system and we cant use a dry kit n2o??? and how can we retard the timing on our cars... some one gave me a NOS (brand) n2o a dry type system and i need so good advice, coz were having a fun run drag racing in 2weeks need a lot of advice from you great teachers out there... no wise cracks pls im serious....