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ncie build, i really wanna see this

 
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wow sweet!!!

 
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its a start. yes debit is a bitch, but dont get yourself in it by buying car parts. i buy as i am going along. i have everything basicly but a couple things. I am going aem ems. Just like it better, plus paul is going to be doing the tuning, so it will be well worth it for me to have him do it for me. I dont feel like messing with kpro and whatnot.

thanks, yeah should be done soon.
thanks pete!

 
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any new pics?

 
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just the pnp head from paul. chris is going to be getting the block and head tommrow down in NC. so i should have pics of the block tommrow with the pistons, rods, and sleeves.

 
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Gonna be siiiiiiccck!

 
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hey steve thats tru!!! do you know if chris knows how to tune or is any good at tuning with the kpro?? I'm sure he is a great tuner but most prefer a certain ems. Thanks for the motivation!!!

 
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I can do hondata..doing s300 right now

 
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i have got to see this thing when its done steve

 
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thanks chris... glad to know that.. once i get my things together...i'll be seeing you!!!

 
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so what kind of cam are you planning on using? also how much boost? any set goals for power or are you just going to see what happens? looks like a good build keep us updated.

 
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most def. ill be at some meets.

As of right now im using a stage 2 turbo cam from crower. As for set goals and how much boost, well im not too sure, i wanna see hw much boost this sucker can handle. so whatever she will put out, ill be happy with. hope for 350+hp. ill keep you guys updated. might have pics today. not sure yet.

 
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I might use a stage 3 cam. What you think of that compared to the Stage 2 turbo cam?

 
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i remember hearing people having idle issues with the stage 3.

 
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well the stage 3 racing cam work well with turbo???

or should i just make a regrind if i wanted a much more radical cam for boost..?

 
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Stage 3 is lil lumpy on idle, but can definitely be run with turbo. Andyman has done it and saw some favorable results.

You will need an AEM EMS or Hondata to run a cam that aggressive.

 
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I think i am going with stage 3 but i am broke this car has tooken all my funds away looks like i wont be getting her done for a few years lol this sucks

 
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for some progress pics.

 
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i guess you didn't hear but I beleive his civic was totaled. If this is steve from 7thgen

 
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Nope, not totaled. $6K worth of damages, so he's going to have it fixed with the settlement.

 
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Wow that is good news!!! Thats what happens when I miss a day in chat lol

 
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Usually when the bags blow they total the car, I am suprised.

 
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not yet. the block has the rods, pistons, and sleeves are in. havent gotten any pics yet..also the pnp head is done 2.

refer to clints answer..lol
yes sir. thanks for updating.





thank god its not, i only have 3 payments left on the car.


shoudl be done soon, as soon as i get pics ill fill everyone in!

 
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Well I'm glad to hear that you are ok and the car isn't totaled. Don't forget to let me know when its done... if it gets done in the fall... clint, tony and i can all go up there and see it in person!

 
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Any reason you opted to sleeve it? Its an awful big expense with not much benefit...

 
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well, now since its getting fixed and will take 2 weeks from now. ill say it will be done by march.


well, basicly im going to be driving the car everyday, i dont have a second car, so i want it to be stronger so i dont have to worry i guess as much when im beating the car up. i mean im not sure how much it would have cost to not get the sleeves installed, but for all the money i spent, why not add sleeves. just another safety precausion. does that help?

question for you is, why do you say there isnt much benefit? i mean i know you have plenty of power and you have no problems. why do other poeple sleeve there blocks then? i mean if i built a b series motor and boosted it id sleeve it, so wouldnt the same apply to this d series motor, better safe then sorry?

 
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First thing to consider is the thickness of the stock sleeve. We aren't boring our motors to add displacement, weakening the sleeves, first off. B and K series motors are much more capable of higher horsepower numbers. You have to have some seriously high heat or heavy duty detonation to damage a sleeve. Of all of the damage I've caused to different engines over the years, the sleeves have never failed, which really pissed me off when I spun a bearing. The crank was pretty much shot and so was the rod on that journal. But the block was completely in tact still.

The reason I'm asking why you did it is because a) you will not make enough power on a sohc 1.7 and b) if you damage something, its going to be a piston/rod/head/crank before its a sleeve.

And then there's the chance that you detonate badly enough to snap a rod, guess what happens after that? The rod has to go somewhere and odds are, it'll go right through the sleeve.

Sleeve jobs tend to be in the 1k area for parts, machining and labor.

 
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yeah i unberstand the whole power ratio between the 2, but i mean if your making 396 or w/e. and that guy super mex is making 424, i cant see why our motors couldnt make more. i know im going to try and make plenty more. and if it works it works. i just think its better to be safe then sorry, and i know you are talking from experiance with this. i dont disagree with you, but id like to be safe even if the sleeves are a issue.

i hope i dont have to experiance any of them problem you listed..lol but im sure you did 2 and i guess **** happens. yeah the price is almost right, idk i guess will see how worth it it is.

i also saw u said a block guard is useless in a way i guess from what you were talking. but i did that 2.lol i figure wth, if im goign to change everything on the motor, might as well add that, whats 100 bucks.

 
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The reason is because you can only get so much air in and out of the cylinders during one stroke. You only have one cam and it can only be at one position at one time. You have no option of valve overlap like you do on a dohc motor. You can't time those cams to pull insane amounts of power. Even on d16's, I haven't seen anyone break the 500 whp mark. Most I've seen was a mid to high 400 and it was maxed.

Be very careful with a block guard. Especially when it comes to higher numbers. They can and have been known to cause hot spots and warp sleeves in the combustion area.

 
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k, maybe ill opted out of the block guard...

yeah ive checked out d16turbo.org i think.