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Old Jan 26, 2006
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<<<<interested in seeing how this turns out...
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The procharger one is a FMU. Won't work on a returnless system as it comes, you'll need some fab work...

Good luck with it....
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and the procharger kit is just and air to air IC, the vortech aftercooler is air to water.

What shop in Jersey is doing it? One of the top procharger tuners in the US is in Jersey, Larocca's shop...
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Just swap in a R18
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nope. i will keep my little 1.7 v-tec
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Originally Posted by Havok2k1
and the procharger kit is just and air to air IC, the vortech aftercooler is air to water.

What shop in Jersey is doing it? One of the top procharger tuners in the US is in Jersey, Larocca's shop...
i talk to them. then dont do hondas just mustang.
but hopfully will get the kit for 3,000
then 2,000 for other work
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as stated before the kit comes with a FMU and a FMU willnot work unless the fuel system is converted to a return system. but you can also fab a make shift return system that re route the return line form the fmu back to the rail
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emanage with rsx-s injectors is better fuel option then FMU.
Can you optout from FMU?
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im sure you can but that is just even more money now. i wouldnt think it would be too smart to spend $6-7k on this project. the gains arent going to be as good as he thinks. maybe 40-50whp at most. that is a good increase in power probably about 50% but still when turbos can give that much power if not more for 1/2 the cost it doesnt make a lot of sense
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you will make more power with a t/c than a s/c becasue you dont get full boost until max rpm where as a t/c you get full boost by xx rpm(3500-4500)
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every one has their opinion of course.
i know i will make alot of hourse power
especial a "PROCHARGER" tech doing it
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you will make more power with a t/c than a s/c becasue you dont get full boost until max rpm where as a t/c you get full boost by xx rpm(3500-4500)
Dont give him a reason not to do it. I want to see this thing.
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Originally Posted by familycar
im sure you can but that is just even more money now. i wouldnt think it would be too smart to spend $6-7k on this project. the gains arent going to be as good as he thinks. maybe 40-50whp at most. that is a good increase in power probably about 50% but still when turbos can give that much power if not more for 1/2 the cost it doesnt make a lot of sense
isn't the power you make based off of the pulley used which in turns alters the PSI?
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Originally Posted by AzNmiKex215
isn't the power you make based off of the pulley used which in turns alters the PSI?
yes it does but too large of a pulley will give you max psi at a lower rpm but then after that point the s/c is blowing hot air. centrifugal drivers are only good for a certain rpm. that is why you see more roots or screw type drivers in racing. you rarely ever see more than a 60% increase in power with our car that means max about 160whp with the basic system probably running about 10psi. i wouldnt expect anything more. if you do i will be impressed. so just get this done and impress me already and put my words back into my mouth. Good luck though!!
Old Jan 30, 2006
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Originally Posted by familycar
yes it does but too large of a pulley will give you max psi at a lower rpm but then after that point the s/c is blowing hot air. centrifugal drivers are only good for a certain rpm. that is why you see more roots or screw type drivers in racing. you rarely ever see more than a 60% increase in power with our car that means max about 160whp with the basic system probably running about 10psi. i wouldnt expect anything more. if you do i will be impressed. so just get this done and impress me already and put my words back into my mouth. Good luck though!!

huh??

If you change the pulley on a centrifugal, it will change the boost. And the reason you see roots type and twin-screws in drag racing is because of their efficiency. The twin-screw superchargers are extremely efficient. They are also able to compress the air far past what a centrifugal could.

But as for only a 60% increase, that is determined by #1. the blower, #2. the pulley setting, and #3. the tuning.

Look at it this way....

a centrifugal is nothing but a turbo thats run by a belt instead of exhaust gases. If you can do it with a turbo, you can do it with a supercharger.
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huh??

If you change the pulley on a centrifugal, it will change the boost. And the reason you see roots type and twin-screws in drag racing is because of their efficiency. The twin-screw superchargers are extremely efficient. They are also able to compress the air far past what a centrifugal could.

But as for only a 60% increase, that is determined by #1. the blower, #2. the pulley setting, and #3. the tuning.

Look at it this way....

a centrifugal is nothing but a turbo thats run by a belt instead of exhaust gases. If you can do it with a turbo, you can do it with a supercharger.
that is exactly what i said just worded a different way. maybe i just didnt explain it clear enough
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just got a good deal on the "PROCHARGER" from larroco's
3,000 with IC. will take pic's to show. now
to get the FMU..lol
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Originally Posted by boricuachulo
just got a good deal on the "PROCHARGER" from larroco's
3,000 with IC. will take pic's to show. now
to get the FMU..lol
are you going to run a FMU with a makeshift return system or are you going a piggyback route. i would opt for the piggyback if i were you
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ditch the fmu !!
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Originally Posted by familycar
are you going to run a FMU with a makeshift return system or are you going a piggyback route. i would opt for the piggyback if i were you
so i should piggy-back then?
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Originally Posted by boricuachulo
so i should piggy-back then?
definately. for the money i would go with a greddy emanage and a set of rsx injectors. a fmu is just a band aid. especially fixed ratio FMU's. with a fixed ratio you are going to have a lean spot from when the unit detects boost until you recieve the higher fuel pressure. also you have a flat AFR. say you choose a 12:1 FMU its adding 12psi of fuel to 1 psi of boost. this causes your AFR to be a flat line rather than a fluxuating curve. you may not need as much fuel at lower boost pressures as you do at full boost. the piggyback unit will adjust your AFR accordingly and also give you adjustments to control the injector duty cycle and pulse width and also control iginition timming. these are important features when tunning a car. and the cost isnt but maybe a hundy or two different at most.
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Originally Posted by familycar
definately. for the money i would go with a greddy emanage and a set of rsx injectors. a fmu is just a band aid. especially fixed ratio FMU's. with a fixed ratio you are going to have a lean spot from when the unit detects boost until you recieve the higher fuel pressure. also you have a flat AFR. say you choose a 12:1 FMU its adding 12psi of fuel to 1 psi of boost. this causes your AFR to be a flat line rather than a fluxuating curve. you may not need as much fuel at lower boost pressures as you do at full boost. the piggyback unit will adjust your AFR accordingly and also give you adjustments to control the injector duty cycle and pulse width and also control iginition timming. these are important features when tunning a car. and the cost isnt but maybe a hundy or two different at most.

ok then i get the greddy emanage and the rsx injectors.
thanks for the tip
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you have any pictures yet. I kinda wanna see this thing
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ditto i want to see it to
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bump for pics
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i dunno if this is gonna work out...

i'm sure he'll be back with some news/progress on the sc..
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It looks like some research work to be done, I'd think may be few weeks before we'll see any updates....hopefully sooner, then later
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any news yet
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