bgoetz

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I have been researching and am thinking around 7K if I DIY and 8K if I have a shop do it. Is this reasonable or am I still thinking to low?? Note: that it is the K20A not the A2, I really think that it would be worth the extra $ to have LSD and 20hp.

ajhdragon

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sounds about right to me.

doubledeuce2k2

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you could probably get it for that price.

or just wait for my to sell my swapped civic in the not super distant future.

bgoetz

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you dont have the k20A do you?? I thought you had the A2. Anyways the entire reason that I am doing this is because I can't get rid of my car for a good price so I am going to keep it. If I was going to get a new car it would be a S2k

doubledeuce2k2

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k20a2. cams are $400, get a reflash, and you're almost there. so $1k. i can't very well trade in my car, and it's not paid off, so that's my problem.

civic01vtec

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i agree 100%......obviously if you have boost in your future, then the a2 would be a better option.

Civic_RedLine

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I think your going to spend a minimum of 8k for the engine. thats the range i calculated it to be with the lsd and type-r engine k20a. Id rather pay for the type-r too

thats with all the little extra stuff you will need to buy during your swap.

Wolfgang5884

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Damn thats a lot of money, is it really worth it

Civic_RedLine

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yeah if you really want to go all out with a civic. IMO i think i would get another car instead of spending that much to build a tight *** sleeper.

bgoetz

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After more research I am thinking I can get it for 8K installed if I did it myself it would be about 1K less. The engine sells for an average of 5,500 compared to the type S that sells for 3500-4000. I have also decided that due to the fact that I can't get rid of my car unless I give it away I am going through with it and am going to pay extra to get the shop to do it. I think it will be one badass civic and with a couple of bolt-ons it can easily hit mid 13s

bgoetz

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my only concern now is that after alot of $ and work I have the car handling like a dream, but the extra weight in the front is going to through off my spring rates and I may have to get different springs for my Teins.

ThsUserNmIsDumb

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Ask aznboysrfr... I have this gut feeling that he might know...

aznboysrfr

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;P

should be right around $7k if you DIY and shop around

5500 engine
300 subframe
200 si axles
500 mounts
300 (?) hasport wiring harness

ThsUserNmIsDumb

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^ He's like Batman.

C Orndorff

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I just did a k20a in my car. I got the whole swap for $4400 (but this was discounted, threw a friends account at H motors.com) then I sold the 5 lug axles and put in 94-01 Integra GSR axles (fits great) I went with the GSR ones because they are only $120 for both at Napa. Vs. 02-03 civic si or a 5 lug swap (more $$$). I mostly see k20a swaps go for 5500-6300. The usually have everything you need. Also Hasport mounts are easy to get off eBay for $375-$475 (new) I got mine for 400 (new) on eBay.
Also you could do what my buddy is doing. He got a k20a3 swap off eBay for $2000, everything he needed, for 2k. And only 7k miles on it. He is going to drive that until he gets some more cash, then he is going to swap the pistons, crank, final drive gear and head. Total he has priced those parts at about $1500 (some used some new) and k20 lsd at $500 when he dose all this he will have a k20a at only 3500-4000 (but only 5 speed but with gears 1-3 the same as the type r)

C Orndorff

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Also all my labor was free because i did it.

aznboysrfr

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^ perfect example of somebody who shops around ... minus the discounted motor. not all of us can get a price like that

CivicMexicano

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What about using a k24 block, would it be pricier, if say you use a diferent head like a k20a3 or a2 one, since you have to switch the ecu too,

HondaLuver

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interesting

CivicMexicano

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HOndaluver what would the advantage of using the k24 form a crv be intead of a tsx one??

beside cost...

C Orndorff

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The TSX one has higher compression pistons, that makes more power. The only advantage of useing a CRV, Accord, Element Block is cost. The TSX has the advantage in power.
Here is a Compression Ratio break down of all the K motors.

DC5 Type R K20A - 11.5:1
RSX Type S K20A2 - 11.0:1
RSX/Civic Si K20A3 - 9.8:1
Honda CRV K24A1 - 9.6:1
Acura TSX K24A2 - 10.5:1
Element K24A4 - 9.7:1

CivicMexicano

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Also the torque curve on the k24a1 is more on the lower rpm's, and the k24a4 makes torque on the higher rpm's

bgoetz

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Did you guys that have done this have to change the springs to ones with higher spring rates??

doubledeuce2k2

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it's not the spring rates that matter so much. but as a coincidence, rsx springs have higher rates. used springs can be had for like $100 or less. or buy stock type s springs for real cheap as a holdover for coilovers.

CivicMexicano

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so what would prevent the car for going lower once you do the swap??

bgoetz

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I already have tein coilovers so I am assuming that I have to buy different tein springs.