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head gasket

i dont know if this is the right place for this topic but whats a good thick head gasket to use. and how much do you think it would cost to get installed. would using a thicker HG be a safe way to turn up the boost to say 10psi?
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It would certainly help your engine handle 10psi of boost better, but as you know already, the only true safe way is to build your internals


A nice headgasket will help decrease the risk of detonation in your engine, but will not decrease the pressure that the turbo creates ontop of your pistons...
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Old Dec 30, 2004
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nippon leakless..........get it from honda


if u change it..........get new studs......either honda oem or the best bet is ARP.
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You could use two Nippon Leakless, i think it helps you lower compression a bit...

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Would two really be safe? I'm installing low compression internals, would the HKS headgasket be more durable, with out lowering my compression more???
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HKS headgasket???
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2 would lower compression, but i am still undecided about this. I think that i will just stick with one
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Originally Posted by AceAltima
It would certainly help your engine handle 10psi of boost better, but as you know already, the only true safe way is to build your internals


A nice headgasket will help decrease the risk of detonation in your engine, but will not decrease the pressure that the turbo creates ontop of your pistons...
yes i figiured that building the engine would be the best bet. i should do it the right way and get pistons and rods, and sleeving wont be a bad idea. would rather not risk blowing my engine.


i so guess i need around 3 or 4 grand to build this thing the right way. i would like to run more then 10psi. i wanna get the all out of my turbo. thats my goal by june or july.
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Exactly...thats the downfall of high boost...you need to do it correctly, and thats about all there is that can be said...

I'd love doing tihngs on a budget, but when it comes to boost, doing things cheaply will only bite you in the *** and only cost you more in the end...no one ever said going fast was cheap lol

But def a built bottom end is the way to go...you'll able to boost ALOT more and SAFER...which is what everybody wants


as for 2 headgaskts I wouldn't even ever let 2 headgaskets get near my car at the same time (unless it's a v8 lol)

2 headgaskets is a sure way to have problems...lol...you can't just 'stack' the gaskets and hope for compression to not be lost...heck everyone would jut go out and buy 4 or 6 gaskets if it was that easy ;]
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I am getting one nippon leakless head gasket to be installed this week, I will let everyone know how It goes, also getting an Exedy stage 2 clutch if I can get a good price
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Originally Posted by Civic Type S
I am getting one nippon leakless head gasket to be installed this week, I will let everyone know how It goes, also getting an Exedy stage 2 clutch if I can get a good price

PM Jeff at Streetlevelperformance.........he has great prices for them

hit him up on aim at jdobson412
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yeah i need a new clutch myself. i saw the exedy stage 2 for 220 i believe. and as for the motor i guess ill just save up and build this thing...i think its worth it. i wanna go faster.
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Originally Posted by exturbo6
yeah i need a new clutch myself. i saw the exedy stage 2 for 220 i believe. and as for the motor i guess ill just save up and build this thing...i think its worth it. i wanna go faster.

i am gonna get the exedy organic.........it is better for daily driving and can hold 69% tq over stock.
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you saw the exedy stage 2 clutch for 220, hook me up on where you found that at
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sorry, i found the clutch for 236.20 on streetlevelperformance.com
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ow ****! I just found the right topic! this is my next project! I've heared sad stories about headgasket blowin up, and they have to clean all the fukin oil spills under the hood...

any 7thgen done this before? and also can ya'll post a DIY, I can take anything out of the engine, but it would be hell to put them back on haha!

so ok 2 Nippon Leakless! so pleaaaaaaaaaseeeeee help me with DIY!!!!
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no dude, they are saying do not stack headgaskets!!!! that is a very bad idea. they would just leak or even blow out. there is a reason HG's are as thin as they are. if the HG was thicker, if would leak sooner because it wouldn't be as strong. the thinner the gasket, the stronger it is when you squish it between two metal surfaces. but of course too thin is bad and won't give a good seal. think about it, engineers have designed gaskets for years and they make them so they work the best way possible. so if a thicker/stacked gasket was better, it would be done that way from the factory. Oh, thanks for the help with my topic on my turbo problem, I fixed it this morning and she runs nice and smooth. but always remember, doubling gaskets is a no no, and if someone does it they should be shot....lol
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Gasket Works USA (626) 358-1616

Custom copper headgaskets in whatever thickness you need. Will not blow out and you can lower compression with them if you really want to.

That's how my F22B1 was sealed together before my current rebuild. NO problems what so ever with their product.
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Originally Posted by bradmanuwf
no dude, they are saying do not stack headgaskets!!!! that is a very bad idea. they would just leak or even blow out. there is a reason HG's are as thin as they are. if the HG was thicker, if would leak sooner because it wouldn't be as strong. the thinner the gasket, the stronger it is when you squish it between two metal surfaces. but of course too thin is bad and won't give a good seal. think about it, engineers have designed gaskets for years and they make them so they work the best way possible. so if a thicker/stacked gasket was better, it would be done that way from the factory. Oh, thanks for the help with my topic on my turbo problem, I fixed it this morning and she runs nice and smooth. but always remember, doubling gaskets is a no no, and if someone does it they should be shot....lol
ow cool! and don't punch the sucka untill you get it tuned! you'll regret it! and ow! sorry yeah only one gasket!!!! and don't stack em... who ever said stacking them up is good should be shot


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Gasket Works USA (626) 358-1616

Custom copper headgaskets in whatever thickness you need. Will not blow out and you can lower compression with them if you really want to.

That's how my F22B1 was sealed together before my current rebuild. NO problems what so ever with their product.
so many choices! they said nippon leakless is good too... what about some titanium block pins to hold the head down? you guys heared of those? and where can I get em? I think there's more to it than just the gasket but what holds it in place...

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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
what about some titanium block pins to hold the head down? you guys heared of those? and where can I get em? I think there's more to it than just the gasket but what holds it in place...
If you are talking about dowel pins, I seriously doubt anyone here is making near enough power to have the head shift enough for that.

My OEM HG held reliably to 14# before it was replaced with the copper gasket, the OEM did not leak nor did it blow out, it was simply a safety measure, the trick is in the headbolts. Honda headbolts are torque to yield which means that they stretch when you install them and apply a clamping load on the head.

You MUST not reuse OEM headbolts as they will never seal correctly again, going to ARP hardware will button it down as tight as you will ever need on a Honda engine running pump gas.
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Originally Posted by Pb4uGo
If you are talking about dowel pins, I seriously doubt anyone here is making near enough power to have the head shift enough for that.

My OEM HG held reliably to 14# before it was replaced with the copper gasket, the OEM did not leak nor did it blow out, it was simply a safety measure, the trick is in the headbolts. Honda headbolts are torque to yield which means that they stretch when you install them and apply a clamping load on the head.

You MUST not reuse OEM headbolts as they will never seal correctly again, going to ARP hardware will button it down as tight as you will ever need on a Honda engine running pump gas.
yeah i'm runnin 7-8PSI and I know that OEM HG holds up to 15PSI, I never though of changing it untill I heared about stories of HG poppin and cleaning the engine bay of all the oil spills kinda sux... that's why I wanted to change it before it pops... thanks for the info i appreciate that... I think I'll just stick with OEM HG for now, i will not go any higher than 8PSI daily and 10PSI track anyway... so i guess i wail til it pops
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I have an extra genuine oem head gasket lying in the bedroom, but its made by ishnu which is what honda was using before they switched to the nippon leakless gasket. This is what I heard anyway. Would the Ishnu gasket that I have be ok to replace the original with if I use ARP head studs, or should I get a different gasket?
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