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Old Mar 19, 2004
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oh, and BTW..........still waiting for the rest of my kit
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haha, try waiting 4 1/2 months
the anxiety will have worn off by then.
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YOu guys are funny but everyone knows the SF guys are hard to get in contact but I bother them a good 3-5 times a day so they have no choice bc I bring them good business mwahhahah. Anyways, they havent given me tracking numbers but kits have been sent out today to the last of my knowlege. I will again keep all you posted and those again with payments due please send over the rest if you want your kit shipped timley.


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not trying to hijack the thread but the status of my kit is still the same..."billing info recieved", its been that way for 3 days, when is it going out?
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updates?
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SF is kind of pissing me off, they didnt pick up their phone all day and I called 5 times. Oh well, they may be busy. I will post as soon as I can. Dave, I got your check so its all good.
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SF is kind of pissing me off, they didnt pick up their phone all day and I called 5 times. Oh well, they may be busy. I will post as soon as I can.
now u know how i feel........i am still waiting on my pipes and supposedly the powdercoater went on vacation. That is funny, cuz when opto_isolator was waiting for his manifold, the jet-hot coater was on vacation too
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sounds like the whole crew is on vaction with all the down payments and non supplied ktis
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sorry to hear all this guys...
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
now u know how i feel........i am still waiting on my pipes and supposedly the powdercoater went on vacation. That is funny, cuz when opto_isolator was waiting for his manifold, the jet-hot coater was on vacation too

- hope the fabricator didn't go on vacation too!
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opto maybe cody at lovefab.com could make something for ya,,,he turns out some killa mani's
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... does this happen to everyone who orders a kit? i want to order a turbo in next cpl months but when i order it i want i w in a week or so type thing, i wouldnt want to wait 4 months w out it or my money... would it be better to order td kit? everyone seems to hate those ones, (based on searches) but they do seem to get there on time...? what time has everyone had to wait that has ordered them rcently...???
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no its just one day-- you guys have been waiting to diss them haha. But its ok, it all takes time. I want to see you guys run an online shop, fabricate kits, make new designs, and install a bunch of stuff all at once. have respect for their work.

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Originally posted by truehonda
no its just one day-- you guys have been waiting to diss them haha. But its ok, it all takes time. I want to see you guys run an online shop, fabricate kits, make new designs, and install a bunch of stuff all at once. have respect for their work.

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Yeah, but the guys who have been waiting (present company included) haven't been waiting 1 or 2 weeks - we've been waiting 3-4 MONTHS, on average....If this guy is wanting to get a kit in a week, go with either max rev or TD....
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Originally posted by truehonda
no its just one day-- you guys have been waiting to diss them haha. But its ok, it all takes time. I want to see you guys run an online shop, fabricate kits, make new designs, and install a bunch of stuff all at once. have respect for their work.

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Originally posted by opto_isolator
Yeah, but the guys who have been waiting (present company included) haven't been waiting 1 or 2 weeks - we've been waiting 3-4 MONTHS, on average....If this guy is wanting to get a kit in a week, go with either max rev or TD....
I'll rather wait to get whats best out there for my car rather than be an impatient little kid and gets whats available at the time of lesser quality...BE PATIENT DANIELSON...

<--- still hasn't seen any positive results from Maxrev or TD turbo kits...helll I haven't seen any results period... SF OWNZ!!
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Originally posted by JetBlu01
I'll rather wait to get whats best out there for my car rather than be an impatient little kid and gets whats available at the time of lesser quality...BE PATIENT DANIELSON...

<--- still hasn't seen any positive results from Maxrev or TD turbo kits...helll I haven't seen any results period... SF OWNZ!!
This just makes me laugh to read this....I guarentee that if you dropped that much of your hard earned cash on something like this, and kept getting the run-around everytime you asked when the damn thing is going to be done - you'd be plenty pissed as well....

Don't play the situation down until you are in our shoes young grasshopper...

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This just makes me laugh to read this....I guarentee that if you dropped that much of your hard earned cash on something like this, and kept getting the run-around everytime you asking when the damn thing done - you'd be plenty pissed as well....

Don't play the situation down until you are in our shoes young grasshopper...
I'm in your situation YOUNG GRASSHOPPER...I'm waiting on my kit but I'm not about to call Catalyst every 5 minutes to get the latest on my turbo kit...I'm not about to bash SF in no form or fashion...I know how to be patient, sit back and let them do their thing...I rather not bother them to make my kit complete and right rather than BLOW UP THEIR PHONE...I've talked to catalyst once on the phone and once or twice thru pm's but I've never asked him once "when is my turbo kit going out"...maybe if you guys would stop being a BUG-A-BOO and let them do their job without you guys sweating them and blowing up their phones, maybe you guys turbo kits will come up COMPLETE...

<--- dropped over $3000 to Stafford Fabrications...and I want them to take her time making my turbo kit...don't want my stuff to be "half-a$$ed"....HELL U SHOULD BE THANKING STAFFORD FABRICATION FOR COMING UP WITH A SUCH A GREAT PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT FOR OUR POOR D17 ENGINES...
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i dont want ppl to get crazy w responses... im not really impatient, i just wanted an update of ppls experiences... customer reviews my take on reading between the lines is that the kit itself seems to be awesome no questions there it seems its just that ppl seem to not get complete kits sometimes and missing parts, and cant get hold of them that sorta thing, if i spent $4100 (canadian) of my hard earned money id want everything to get taken care of quite promptly that is all i was just wondering if it was getting better? customers experiences? obviously ppl still dont like td...
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I've only been waiting a few weeks-to be expected. I was just checking for an update.
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<--- tired of seeing all this whining and complaining about whats missing and "SF didn't do this and SF didn't do that"....how about some you guys help them run their online shop, FABRICATE YOUR TURBO KITS, DO INSTALLS, RESPOND TO THEIR PM'S AND E-MAILS AND VOICEMAILS, AND RUN A DAILY BUSINESS by PUTTING IN AN APPLICATION AT STAFFORD FABRICATIONS...
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Originally posted by JetBlu01
I'm in your situation YOUNG GRASSHOPPER...I'm waiting on my kit but I'm not about to call Catalyst every 5 minutes to get the latest on my turbo kit...I'm not about to bash SF in no form or fashion...I know how to be patient, sit back and let them do their thing...I rather not bother them to make my kit complete and right rather than BLOW UP THEIR PHONE...I've talked to catalyst once on the phone and once or twice thru pm's but I've never asked him once "when is my turbo kit going out"...maybe if you guys would stop being a BUG-A-BOO and let them do their job without you guys sweating them and blowing up their phones, maybe you guys turbo kits will come up COMPLETE...

<--- dropped over $3000 to Stafford Fabrications...and I want them to take her time making my turbo kit...don't want my stuff to be "half-a$$ed"....HELL U SHOULD BE THANKING STAFFORD FABRICATION FOR COMING UP WITH A SUCH A GREAT PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT FOR OUR POOR D17 ENGINES...
Well, to be honest I haven't called him once since their last f*ck up - yeah that's right, you remember this:

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...hreadid=141592

Boy, over 2000 views and 85 replies in the first DAY.....And that was waiting over 2 months. Oh yeah, forgot to mention that they FORGOT to ship the rest of my parts at the same time....I can also count the # of people on at least 1 hand which they have forgotten to ship parts for as well - so please, just stfu and stop being stupid, mmkay?
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AIGHT I'M PISSED NOW...if u guys see all these people complaining about SF's customer service and how long it takes for them to complete you guys turbo kits...then Y THE HELL U GUYS KEEP BUYING FROM STAFFORD FABRICATIONS...don't bash them one second and then the next second you ordering something from them or you posting how great your car runs now with your new SF MOD...far as Forced Induction for 7th gen civics...STAFFORD FABRICATIONS OWNZ!! I haven't seen any better results from Maxrev or TD or whoever makes a turbo kit for 7th gens unless its a custom built turbo kit...

<--- appreciates Stafford Fabrications for all the work they are doing for 7th gen civics...without SF, I would have a K20A2 right now and be running low 15's instead when I receive my SF turbo kit, I'll be hitting 13's at the track...but just know when I'm done with this boosted D17 (courtesy of SF) I'll be moving on to the K20A2 but right now SF owns...

this is how I looked at my situation...$3500 to run low 15's or $3500 to run 13's...

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AIGHT I'M PISSED NOW...if u guys see all these people complaining about SF's customer service and how long it takes for them to complete you guys turbo kits...then Y THE HELL U GUYS KEEP BUYING FROM STAFFORD FABRICATIONS...don't bash them one second and then the next second you ordering something for them or you posting how great your car runs now with your new SF MOD...far as Forced Induction for 7th gen civics...STAFFORD FABRICATIONS OWNZ!! I haven't seen no better results from Maxrev or TD or whoever makes a turbo kit for 7th gens unless its a custom built turbo kit...

<--- appreciates Stafford Fabrications for all the work they are doing for 7th gen civics...without SF, I would have a K20A2 right now and be running low 15's instead when I receive my SF turbo kit, I'll be hitting 13's at the track...but just know when I'm done with this boosted D17 (courtesy of SF) I'll be moving on to the K20A2 but right now SF owns...

this is how I looked at my situation...$3500 to run low 15's or $3500 to run 13's...
Man, this thread just makes my day.... The people who are bashing them are the ones that haven't received their kits yet. Folks who have just ordered their kits aren't bashing them. Haven't you been paying attention?

Secondly, I have a custom kit that I am piecing together for my car. The only thing I bought from SF was my manifold / dumptube / downpipe and oil kit - that's it....everything else I've done or have been doing myself. So unless you have anything else to back up your useless banter - go not pass go, do not collect $200, do not continue looking like the 7th gen jester....
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Originally posted by opto_isolator
Well, to be honest I haven't called him once since their last f*ck up - yeah that's right, you remember this:

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...hreadid=141592

Boy, over 2000 views and 85 replies in the first DAY.....And that was waiting over 2 months. Oh yeah, forgot to mention that they FORGOT to ship the rest of my parts at the same time....I can also count the # of people on at least 1 hand which they have forgotten to ship parts for as well - so please, just stfu and stop being stupid, mmkay?
people *** up sometimes...damn man be EASY... just because they make one mistake doesn't mean you BASH THEM OVER THE WEB WHICH PUTS A BAD TAG ON THEIR NAME AND THEIR BUSINESS...thats not how you do business man...personally if u ordered something from me and I send u something that is not to your satisfactory then you bash me and my business over the web...ESPECIALLY OVER A PARTICULAR SITE WHERE I'M GETTING MOST OF MY BUSINESS FROM, I WOULDN'T SEND U A FREAKIN' DIME...U WOULD BE S.O.L....maybe when you grow up and accept that people that run businesses ARE PRONE TO MAKE A MISTAKE HERE AND THERE, you'll appreciate what they are doing for U AND THE REST OF US...till then...biatch, whine, and complain....not trying to flame u man but you have to realize that you're not the only person ordering from Stafford Fabrication...I'm sure they get at least a 1,000 total of pm's, voicemails, calls PER DAY...so I'm guessing with the small staff they have at hand, they attend to their customers in a orderly timely fashion...HOW ARE THEY GOING TO FABRICATE OTHER PEOPLE'S ORDERS WHEN U WANT TO TALK TO THEM 24/7 AND WHINE TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY MESSED UP ON YOUR ORDER...How about you go buy you a playstation or Xbox and some games and consume some of your time rather than breathe down SF's neck and blow up their phone...better yet how about you start up a "Stafford Fabrication CALL CENTER" and you can be one of the operators and you handle their calls, e-mails, pm's, voicemails while they WORK ON YOUR SHIAT AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S...
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Man, this thread just makes my day.... The people who are bashing them are the ones that haven't received their kits yet. Folks who have just ordered their kits aren't bashing them. Haven't you been paying attention?

I DON'T CARE IF I DON'T RECEIVE MY TURBO UNTIL CHRISTMAS 2004...I WILL NEVER BASH THEM PUBLICLY OVER THE WEB...THATS LIKE YOUR EX GIRLFRIEND TALKING ABOUT HOW SMALL YOUR DICC IS OVER THE WEB AFTER SHE JUST DUMPED YOUR A$$ AND U LOOKING FOR ANOTHER GIRLFRIEND... ITS CALLED BAD BUSINESS...

NEVER BASH SOMEONE THAT IS HELPING YOU...how about you speak with catalyst/ Stafford Fabrication PRIVATELY...how about you continue to PIECE TOGETHER YOUR CUSTOM KIT WITHOUT STAFFORD FABRICATION AND MOVE ON TO ANOTHER COMPANY SINCE ALL U WANT TO DO IS FLAME THEIR COMPANY...

BETTER YET HOW ABOUT YOU FLAME STAFFORD THRU PM'S AND VOICEMAILS AND IF YOU WANT TO FLAME ME...PM ME INSTEAD OF HIJACKING "TRUE HONDA" AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAS ORDERED A TURBO KIT THRU "TRUE HONDA" TREAD.....MMMKAY?

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Look man, I'm not on here to bash (nor do I hate) SF. They f#cked up, they are a growing company that expanded their buisness way too fast, and are (hopefully) learning from their mistakes. I post on this forum because of lack of information about this series of civics (2001+).

I just want people to be AWARE of the fact that there are crap companies and crap products out there. What SF sent out the door to me was simply - crap. As Dober pointed out in a previous thread, check out http://www.lovefab.com for some seriously awesome looking turbo manifolds! The welds are spotless, the fabrication is awesome! I expect none-the-less if I am going to pay $799 for a manifold. I would hope you would expect the same thing as well.

If we don't hold companies accountable for their mistakes, than they will walk all over us. 7thgen as a forum should not blindly jump aboard the train and be taken advantage of, as it is still a young forum when compared to the others out there - what I mean by that is that there could be some shady folks out there willing to take your money quite easily (ever hear the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted"?). When I post reviews of products I am tough for a reason. I am just watching out for some of the more "inexperienced" members of this site, and hoping they learn from mine (as well as others) past experience.....
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Originally posted by opto_isolator
Look man, I'm not on here to bash (nor do I hate) SF. They f#cked up, they are a growing company that expanded their buisness way too fast, and are (hopefully) learning from their mistakes. I post on this forum because of lack of information about this series of civics (2001+).

I just want people to be AWARE of the fact that there are crap companies and crap products out there. What SF sent out the door to me was simply - crap. As Dober pointed out in a previous thread, check out http://www.lovefab.com for some seriously awesome looking turbo manifolds! The welds are spotless, the fabrication is awesome! I expect none-the-less if I am going to pay $799 for a manifold. I would hope you would expect the same thing as well.

If we don't hold companies accountable for their mistakes, than they will walk all over us. 7thgen as a forum should not blindly jump aboard the train and be taken advantage of, as it is still a young forum when compared to the others out there - what I mean by that is that there could be some shady folks out there willing to take your money quite easily (ever hear the saying "a fool and his money are soon parted"?). When I post reviews of products I am tough for a reason. I am just watching out for some of the more "inexperienced" members of this site, and hoping they learn from mine (as well as others) past experience.....
completely understand...but I think u could have simply stated "I wasn't happy with the product I received from SF" and posted a pic y u came to that conclusion...I read your thread about your manifold and u BASHED THEM and HATED ON THEM .... lets look back...shall we...

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I don't know who actually fabricated mine, but its definitely not worth $700......The pictures speak for themselves:

This just pissed me off the most - this image is full size, so its large. You can clearly see the pin hole in the weld bead - what a sloppy job.....

Last one, this again just speaks for itself.....shotty....

As you can see, these welds are horrible! The ceramic coating which I "bought" extra for $200 is a joke

I'm sorry Stafford, but for $700 you should have tried harder.....not worth the price for that much.

This is just a warning for those of you who are always saying that Stafford is the best......I personally want my money back - this doesn't look (or feel) like a good manifold. Considering I waited 2+ months for this, I am pissed. At this point I wouldn't mind just sending this back Mike and requesting a refund.....This is not how a $700 manifold is supposed to look

As far as why they just sent it out like that, why don't we ask Catalyst? Oh that's right! His PM box is full, and SF doesn't answer his phone! Voicemail left, let's see if he returns it.....

The actual collector, not too bad, but not that great

Makes me wonder....people are too afraid to speak up for their rights! Makes me wonder about DH Racing too.....Everyone just jumps on the bandwagon without research - well, here's your proof that its not always a good thing!

DH has NO dynos for ANY of his stuff besides what catalyst had on his car, and we don't know exactly what he had on his car to get that dyno......

Blah blah blah - I'm not here to debate DH's work. This thread is to show the quality of what I got. Quit trying to make your d!ck look bigger, I don't give a damn.

My thoughts too - a custom shop could have done a better job at this for the price I paid.....
NOW IF THAT AIN'T BASHING/HATING...I DONT KNOW WHAT BASHING/HATING IS...I JUST COPIED AND PASTED DAM NEAR ALL YOUR POSTS FROM YOUR THREAD ABOUT YOUR MANIFOLD...MMMKAY...
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lol i love this thread, you know what i would give to have waited just 3-4 months!? i paid for my kit on august 31st, its MARCH 23rd, you do the math....i've lost track
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this thread is to discuss and receive/give updates regarding SF turbo kits purchased from truehonda.com, as per the thread title. IBTL if this gets any worse.



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