Boosting D17....waste of time ?
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Originally posted by RiceBurnrEX
I'm replying to the people talking about needing alcohol or water injection for above 4-5 psi...
I've been running 8psi for a year now, no water or alcohol injection, just a Haltech F5 and 1 additional injector for the fuel, still returnless fuel setup... and absolutely no problems (except blowing off an intercooler pipe one time, but that happens). My timing is still stock, I run 93 octane gas daily (and a 55 gallon drum of 101 in my garage for track days, just in case), and nothing has gone wrong.
I won't say that alcohol and water injection can't help... they can help if used correctly. But they are not necessary to run 8psi or under if you know what you're doing with fuel tuning.
I'm replying to the people talking about needing alcohol or water injection for above 4-5 psi...
I've been running 8psi for a year now, no water or alcohol injection, just a Haltech F5 and 1 additional injector for the fuel, still returnless fuel setup... and absolutely no problems (except blowing off an intercooler pipe one time, but that happens). My timing is still stock, I run 93 octane gas daily (and a 55 gallon drum of 101 in my garage for track days, just in case), and nothing has gone wrong.
I won't say that alcohol and water injection can't help... they can help if used correctly. But they are not necessary to run 8psi or under if you know what you're doing with fuel tuning.
but i want to run 9psi daily
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Rep Power: 0 Where can I get this SF turbo kit? I thought no one made crap for these poor cars but for a few things like exhaust stuff. I would agree with the restriction in the intake manifold and TB. So it can still suck. but not as good as it could. Sounds good. Laters-
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Originally posted by 18secQuaterMile
i'm just gonna pretend i didnt read that cuz i bought alcohol injection
but i want to run 9psi daily
i'm just gonna pretend i didnt read that cuz i bought alcohol injection
but i want to run 9psi daily
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Rep Power: 0 ok i feel stupid but i dont understand all this alcohol injection stuff and y its needed if u have a turbo runnin 8 psi. ive been really thinking turbo for my civic but i guess i didnt put into mind what all would have to be done. someone wanna smack the crap outta me??
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Rep Power: 313 The ex's can run more boost than the lx's. The timing curve is completely different due to the vtec engagement. The dynamic compression is different, etc. I set the recommended boost setting to about 5-7 psi for both kits on 91 octane.
The alcohol injection is not only used as an ADI (anti detonation), but it has also had a dyno gain of 12 whp throughout the entire powerband on our celica, without turning up the boost.
The alcohol injection is not only used as an ADI (anti detonation), but it has also had a dyno gain of 12 whp throughout the entire powerband on our celica, without turning up the boost.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by 18secQuaterMile
^^^OT but was that 197hp to the wheels at 8psi?
^^^OT but was that 197hp to the wheels at 8psi?
Catalyst... I've seen alcohol used as an ADI, but never knew it could also increase power output just by itself... very interesting. I'll have to PM you for a few details about how your injection system works.
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Rep Power: 608 Originally posted by Dooginfif20
ok i feel stupid but i dont understand all this alcohol injection stuff and y its needed if u have a turbo runnin 8 psi. ive been really thinking turbo for my civic but i guess i didnt put into mind what all would have to be done. someone wanna smack the crap outta me??
ok i feel stupid but i dont understand all this alcohol injection stuff and y its needed if u have a turbo runnin 8 psi. ive been really thinking turbo for my civic but i guess i didnt put into mind what all would have to be done. someone wanna smack the crap outta me??
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