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i think this is one of my first posts here.
anyways..

getting a turbo is good and all but im sure there are some negative effects on the car after awhile right? i mean even if you do internals, you cant really have a rock solid engine. im asking this cause cars with stock turbos dont last forever either. so a custom turbo must be bad for it right?

 
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well...im pretty sure that, from what ive heard, only running 4-5psi (minimum for the SF kit) on a daily driver is just fine. As long as you have a good boost gauge and air/fuel ratio gauge, you should be fine. I have heard of someone here running 10psi daily with stock internals.

 
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a turbo puts wear and tear on engines. If done properly the engine will run fine. However, with the extra wear and tear, things are sure to go, which will start to add up in the long run. Also the extra stress on the engine will not be soo good (long run again) resulting in an engine that could lose roughly 1/3 of its life over time. Hondas are known to run for a long time with turbos and other big upgrades they will play a toll on the engine.

 
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ive heard, though, that its not uncommon for Honda's to last well over 300,000 miles...so if you lose a third, you're still going to be going strong at 200k! Thats pretty good if you ask me.

 
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it will last if you take care of your vehicle and watch everything carefully, and dont just push things to the side that are a need to take care of base. -=]

 
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Well, I have had my turbo on my car for about a month and a half....guess how long I've been able to drive the car? maybe two weeks. The rest of it has been down time. I am now on my 3d headgasket.....which wouldn't be so bad if I had a beater daily driver.

Engine problems really suck, especially when you are working on it by yourself with noone else who's really dealt with it before to help you diagnose it. I've got so many issues with my car right now, I don't even know where to begin.

 
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How bout getting those studs.

 
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our engines cost like $600 bucks, people pay that much for their exhuasts, i'm not to worried about it. just keep up with maintence and dont go crazy with boost, you will go for as long as you own the car.

 
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I called my machine guy this morning, he's going to look into it and see if he can find an extra one from a d16 just to check it for fitment....if it works, I'll give it a shot.

 
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My thoughts exactly.

 
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seriously our engine only cost 600 dollars?

 
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doode...why dont i buy another one, stick it in my trunk, and say I have 254 horsepower? Haha jk

 
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$500-$800 yes, depends on mileage and condition

 
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mine was 510 with 220 miles on it ..

 
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if you got it from a junkyard they must have been sleeping

 
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Yes if the setup is incorrect, you will fry your engine. Ive seen a miata that was boosted and that had an incorrect turbo setup and it literally fryed the parts of the engine.

 
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are u talking about me? no junkyard.. i just know where to get them.

 
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yea so what junkyard or person sells them for 500 with 200 miles on them

 
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alot of places.. your just not looking in the right place... seriously. 500 was kinda high too.. but with 220 miles on it .. i couldnt complain... plus 6 month warranty....

here

www.car-part.com

 
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well i dont know about you guys but 500 dollars, 600 dollars, hell even 100 dollars is alot of money for me. sorry if im not baller enough to just switch out engines whenever i screw the other.

so basically im getting from this you have to install it right.
but then the sf kit proclaims that you can install it yourself in a day. soo the kit's instructions are that detailed and fool proof to not ruin your engine?

 
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the engin-ruining problem is with the use. If you buy the basic SF kit and run 10psi of boost, yeah, you'll blow your engine. You just have to be smart about it, and realize that you're asking the engine to do things it wasn't built to do.

 
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Yeah.... the more lean you run, the hotter the engine runs.

 
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No, that is not true. One boost spike high enough w/o enough fuel can throw a rod right through the motor. A turbocharger is a major modification. Everyone seems to think, oh, turbo, yeah, that's like adding a cai. Nowhere near the same thing.

Of course, the install is not hard at all. I removed the whole setup from my car in a matter of about 2 1/2 hours. I'm sure it wouldn't take me much longer to put it back in, either. But both catalyst and I have had repeated issues with our cars. From what he's told me, the car has been running solid since he fixed it last. My car isn't even running right now, either. Now I say that my issues haven't been due to the turbo directly but I garuntee that if I hadn't put it in, my car wouldn't have overheated.

 
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I think what you need to realize is that the information you find here will be inheriantly biased. You see, most people here would love to cling to the false reality that if they run daily boost of 5lbs their engine will last as long as someone without boost. The simple fact of the matter, the more horsepower your car develops the harder the engine is working, thus it won't last as long. Do you guys ever wonder why american car companies put huge engines in cars to make them fast? Those motors only rev up to about 5500 RPMs, as aposed to our 7000. Generally the reason Honda's are considered so reliable is because the people who drive them don't take them above 3,500 rpms so they barely stress the engine, thus it lasts 200,000 miles. Properly maintained any engine can last as long as any other. I've noticed a bias here in favor of import engines. In Japan they have a tax for higher displacement engines, and in many other countries they have the same thing. That is why japanese car companies make small displacement engines, its not that its a better design its just cheaper. I know I didn't want to believe it either, but its true. There is no replacement for displacement. All things being equal a larger displacement engine will create more horsepower. So to make long answer short, yes it will cause your engine to fail prematurely (and add wear to all the other components on your car) NOTE: That doesn't include stereo and so forth.

- Diemos