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Old Aug 9, 2003
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Yo whats up i am looking into getting the t25BB from discount turbos and it is the extreme of course but i am looking at this site and it seems that ive heard of this sf kit and some other one! does anyone know what is the best one cause i know that the extreme kit give 56% increase of hp and i do not know what all the other kits have and what parts are included in these other kits cause i know in the extreme kit that everything is needed to run 6lb of boost safely....i am wanting to get close to 300 hp to the wheels when im done that is after i prep the engine with dif fuel rails pistons, all the prepin for the engine bfore i get the turbo on so if anyone knows how to do this and what steps to take, i am also looking at when i get done with the turbo a zex 55 shoot......tell me what you think!!!!
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PLEASE DO NOT START UNECESSARY THREADS!

besides that... all other kits besides the sf kit has have negative reviews from what i see... the t25bb turbo will spool faster but will NOT make as much hp as a T3.... the sf kit includes the intercooler for less than the other kits and it still makes more power... best bang for the buck as far as turbo goes is the SF kit... you're also not going to make 300 hp at the wheels with only 6 pounds of boost, it'll be much more than that and for that to happen, you're gonna need to build build build.... i hope you realize what you're getting yourself into... there is a lot more money involved with forced induction because of the maintinance and the possibilities that things CAN indeed go wrong... ie.. break stuff.... i don't know you or what your experience is with forced induction but if you're a newbie like many of us on this site, i sincerely hope you research this before you make any sort of decision in this way...
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i figure with a engine prep before i get the turbo, includin forged pistons to lower the compression of the engine and port and polish and cams, cams shafts pulleys and manifold fuel rails, and then ill put the kit on with gives all that i need like the regulator and exc. then would be the v2 intake and ceramic headers and full custom exuast and maybee after that if i an not close enough i will use the zex which a 55 shot so that should be 300..... i was just wandering if you knew of a stronger turbo setup cause it would make things easyier and of course i would not be runining 6....only in the begining and then get it up to 11 when i am done and after the turbo is broken in cause you know of course that you have to break in the turbo before you go all on it right.....
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with out the zex i do not think that it is possible to get 300 i really dont but i just need advice dude thanks.....
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aem v2 blows.. it's heavy and you don't even need it with the turbo kit cause the bend in the pipe would be different... ceramic coating the turbo manifold would be a plus... buying ceramic headers from dc sports or some other company would be a waste of money because you wouldn't even be using that either... i'm pretty sure that our engines can not handle a 55 shot nitrous system with just forged pistons, pp, cams, and cam shaft and 11 pounds of boost.... you're gonna have to do more than that... you're gonna have to REBUILD the whole engine... might as well do a swap if you're gonna do that... honestly.. your hearts in the right place but you also need to get realistic... i might be wrong... i know one guy on this site that actually built his engine like how you wanted to... he's pushing close to 270whp on the dyno with his d17.... but he also invested like 10 grand or more to do it... not trying to put you down, but unless you make a decent living and you know what you're doing.... don't try this... that's my advice
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Yeah don't spend any money on headers/intake because they'll be useless once you get your turbo kit.

The FI section has all the info you need, just do some research.
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Yo whats up ok well what do you think that i can acheive with the engine prep (all the preping includes what weve discused before up top) for the turbo so i can lower compression and raise boost at a safe rate and then the custom exaust and turbo will get me too....or if you can tell me what that dude did witht the 270 whp thanks dude and also what do you think my times would be after all that i am looking at around 6000 in parts not including labor.....?
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6000 in parts will get u a good turbo kit, as far as ur pistons and what not there are alot more expenses, 300hp is going to be tough. u will have to build the engine drastically lower the compression, i wouldnt even mess with nitrous
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i say NO to nitrous... get the 8.5:1 compression pistons ( i cant decide beetween those and the 9.0:1 ones) and run around 15lbs at the track when you are all done.. fuly worked over crank, new billet rods, sleeve block, port and polish head, valves & springs (i wouldnt mess with cam for now, wait for one made for turbo to come out, till then stock is WAY better then regrind)... with 15lbs on a very well built motor, you should be at around 250-260 WHP from what were seeing, since 5-6lbs = around 170hp... on stock motor..
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don't forget to stud the head, new headgasket, install a block guard, new valves, valve springs, retainers, injectors... like i said.. theres a lot to do..
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DO NOT INSTALL BLOCK GUARD WHATSOEVER, they suck and shouldnt be for sale, every time my friend used one it disfigured the cylinder walls. if ur going to go block guard, sleeve the damn thing, either open or closed deck, no one makes head bolts yet, i tried lookin, i just used new honda head bolts, and i still havent seen a reputable name brand that makes head work(valves,etc), skunk2 is in the RD of things for the car
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thanks guys i am starting the project of the car i will get back to you guys when i have stuff done thanks for all the advice....
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to use a block guard, you have to have someone who knows what they are doing install it, and it has to be a good quality one.

This is the guy who is building my engine
www.dh-racing.com
Dave is an awesome engine builder, and he uses blockguards extensively. and all of his work is the highest quality you will ever find in a Honda.

BTW.... i have the SF base kit, and i ran mid 13's with no internals.
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